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Gender and Ultraviolence. (29)

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Dollface
Posted by Dollface on Thu 13 Jan 11, 10:02 PM to the Ultraviolence group.

Right. Forgive me for something of a brainfart here. I don't think this is actually 100% appropriate for this board, but it touches upon it...so.

This question is largely aimed at folk who play with both genders, and particularly those who indulge in the rough stuff.

Now. I love men, and I love women. I like to have sexual relations with them both. I also like being on the business end of a right hook. However, that kind of sexual violence only really turns my crank when it's been carried out by a man. Women are glorious, women are beautiful, and whilst I don't doubt the huge capacity of female sadism it doesn't do it for me on the same level as when it's a man laying into me.

Guilty as charged for fetishising male/female relations, I guess. But I wanted to pose the question to the good folk of IC who butter all sides of their bread: does the gender of your violent play partner matter? Does one particular gender enhance the experience? Is the play or dynamic altered by the gender of your partner?

Edited Fri 14 Jan 11, 10:10 AM by Dollface

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13 Jan 11, 10:13 PM
poutanaki
UK(M), 10 yrs
No, it doesn't matter for me.

I never used to do kink with women, I didn't think it would work, I didn't think I would feel submissive. Then I tried it, and I was very wrong.

I think yes it does alter the interaction, as women in general don't have the power that men have. (Though perhaps I am a big girl, and I do seem to have a history of playing with small women). But I have found they just find different ways to hurt. I think it's the person that makes the experience for me. If I am besotted to the extent that I want to hurt for them, I get a huge thrill from doing so and it makes no difference at all what sex they are.

Your so pretty when your on your knees. Disinfected, eager to please.

13 Jan 11, 10:18 PM
Adorabelle
UK(PR), 2 yrs
I'd say it matters in a big way for me. Particularly because being beaten to a bloody, pleading pulp by a man turns me on to no end, but also because the idea of beaing the one dishing out the violence to a woman gets my juices flowing.

Having said that, I've not really experienced violence at the hands of a woman.I'm sure they can be just as evil and sadistic if not more so than men.

13 Jan 11, 10:34 PM
Drew_Heller
UK(LS), 4 yrs

Now this one's got me thinking... Hmmm you know I really don't know. I've only ever done the whole UV thing with a woman, never with a man. Personally I think i'd have absolutely no issue and would relish giving some pretty boi a damn good kicking and fucking, but not sure about someone who is quite frankly a 6ft 5 rugby player built like a brick shithouse (other than the fact i'd be punching them in the shins and headbutting them in the bollocks...)

From a male on male perspective... shit I dunno. To be honest all the same thing I like with a woman.

Oh bollocks thats got me thinking now...

P.S. Any fit skinny pretty boi types who are looking to get beaten and fucked by a rough northerner... I'm in London this weekend - memo me ;-)

Well worth a fucking try...

I tried to be nice and have a social concience... Then I realised how much I hated people and the retards in society...

14 Jan 11, 1:17 AM
verte
UK(E), 8 yrs
Absolutely. It's the tension between my politics and what gets me wet that makes this the transformative experience it is for me, so to basically simulate domestic violence with a man twice my age (well, he's the only one I'll let beat me to a pulp so far..) is completely gendered and very purposefully so. But I never say never. In fact, I'm very curious about 'playing' in this way with a woman. I just tend to think I haven't met the right older, butcher, sharp-tongued, effortlessly cerebral sadistatrix yet...

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14 Jan 11, 2:32 AM
inappropriate*
UK(CF), 3 yrs
Having recently bottomed to a woman for the first time, I was surprised to find that my previously held opinion (which mirrored @dollface's) was actually unfounded.

Granted the play wasn't particularly extreme, but I think perhaps it's something that might just work in a surprisingly good way with the right woman.

14 Jan 11, 3:59 AM
Miss_Hardy
UK(E), 5 yrs

Hmmm well I like punching men.

I have a cracking left hook, I grew up with men (bar my mother) and was taught to punch properly by men.

I was always told, even as a child, that I have a heavy hand. Although I am not proud of it my last 3 fights as an adult were with men.

I get what you are saying dollface, as a norm domestic violence fantasies (I'm not bolding that for your benefit but for those that can't tell the difference between real life domestic violence and fantasy or consensual violence) is generally carried out by men towards women, and as a norm men have more physical strength than gals, but there is something awesomely hot about a woman punching a man and drawing blood but I can quite as easily punch a bird.

Sorry if I've derailed your thread.

"You're so cute when you're frustrated, dear Yeah, you're so cute when you're sedated, oh dear" - Interpol - PDA

Edited 14 Jan 11, 4:02 AM by Miss_Hardy

14 Jan 11, 7:13 AM
Dark_Cherry
UK(B), 2 yrs


Never yet one to extremes with a girl. But GOD do I want to. Hence the mention of cuntball on my profile :-D

Fuck labels. Labels suck. I am a filthy, slutty, sadistic princess :)

14 Jan 11, 2:04 PM
chelsea
UK(NW), 5 yrs

Dollface wrote:
Gender and Ultraviolence.

Guilty as charged for fetishising male/female relations, I guess. But I wanted to pose the question to the good folk of IC who butter all sides of their bread: does the gender of your violent play partner matter? Does one particular gender enhance the experience? Is the play or dynamic altered by the gender of your partner?

Dear Dollface

Hi, hoping you are well and having a good start to 2011.

Yes, one gender does enhance the experience more than the other, but there is little better than having the best of both...

*blush*

The dynamic for this one is somewhat altered by the gender of the Dominant, Male over Female would be the preferable choice, however, it is always the person and the chemistry between Dom and sub that ultimately determines the experience and not their gender.

Have a beautiful weekend

Love and peace.
Namaste
chelsea

Edited 14 Jan 11, 4:46 PM by chelsea

14 Jan 11, 3:52 PM
relaxed1
UK(BR), 6 yrs

Call me perverse, call me inconsistent, but I find is so much easier to be seriously violent with a man than a women. perhaps it's the fault of my upbringing, or that I feel love for women (in its broadest definition) so much easier than for men.

At the same time, a woman in pain is far more erotic than a man in a similar predicament.

Yep, I'm inconsistent.

"We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking up at the stars." - Oscar Wilde
"You should make a point of trying every experience once, excepting incest and folk dancing." - Sir Arnold Bax

14 Jan 11, 4:26 PM
miss_kitten
UK(HA), 5 yrs

Hmmm this made me think and really consider my messed up sexuality, again :-)

I only want serious violence from a man. As I have little interest in men in general, with the exception of TT, I am not sure if this is all linked together. I am not entirely sure if I would want a serious beating from anyone but TT. But then again the opportunity hasn't arisen. So would I want it? Although it would be TT's decision anyway, so I guess it wouldn't matter.

I have never managed to get nor particularly craved such beatings, as in punching and kicking and general throwing around, from a woman. And thinking about it does little for me. It would certainly have to be a woman who could seriously and effectively overpower me. I am not one to take my beatings with grace :-)

From the other side, I enjoy dishing out such violent beatings to other women. I haven't considered giving them to men, but that's not to say that I wouldn't if the situation arose. But is this linked to my sexuality again? I am starting to think so. But why should it be, when much of the physical stuff I do is not sexually motivated?

Hmmm... I am wondering off now to think about it...

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