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| 10 Jan 11, 12:21 PM tanken UK(NR), 2 yrs   |
Yes, and sites like this allow the discussion of bdsm and sexual practices which is unprecedented in human history. This means for the first time we can have a rational understanding of the 'mysteries' of love and sex 'Kiss the boot of shiny, shiny leather' - Velvet Underground | ||||
| 10 Jan 11, 12:27 PM Dominic_Atreides UK(E), 4 yrs |
I would like to say that I think your post is both clear and concise. I think that it is a masterpiece for something written at 4am. I agree with you about your analysis of the direction that society is heading in. We have clearly and unequivically turned against our own liberties. The New Labour experiment is a case in point. Virtually all its socially orientated policies designed to coerce and amend behaviour have failed. Moreover the unintended consequences of such policies are plain to see. (The New Labour reference is a comparator and not a specific political point) The West is clearly in decline. The most obvious sign of this is the rise of China as a world economic power and the decline of the US as the same. It will take some time to realise but it will happen. In the history of the earth no empire or force has perpetually survived. It is the natural way of things. So, ultimately I think this is a very wise and considered post and I commend you for it. Dominic | ||||
| 10 Jan 11, 12:27 PM Asshole_Magnet UK(EX), 22 mths |
I wish you were right, sadly I fear that the golden age of kink was about 10 years ago, and about 310 years ago, and about 610 years ago. however, we are probably still close enough to the peak of the curve that things haven't started the rapid decline yet, so we can probably truthfully say "we never had it so good"
Might this not lead to the argument that because we have it so good, because we have gone so mainstream, because we are on the high street, we have stuck our heads above the parapet, and now BDSM is in danger of becoming as popular as the ubiquitous AOL CD in the days of Freeserve... maybe we just made ourselves appear on the radar, and the target lock is acquired... I'm not cynical mate, just experienced. | ||||
| 10 Jan 11, 12:33 PM lilybee  UK(TN), 5 yrs    |
You have a point with this but if we stay "underground" never come out and do not try and get accepted in the rest of the world we risk being persecuted and blamed for things in other ways? Which is the lesser of the two evils, to hide and by doing so subliminally at least acknowledge what we do is wrong or to stand up, be proud and fight taking the knocks as the Laws decide? My opinion is that we can only progress by trying to bring about more informed debates to the wider public and to try and fight against legislation that has no clear defined borders.
lily | ||||
| 10 Jan 11, 12:41 PM Tanos UK(M), 14 yrs   |
The situation on all those fronts is better now than it was 10 years ago. For instance, 10 years ago the gutter press felt entitled to send undercover reporters into clubs to expose them, merely because they were BDSM clubs (eg the Bridge in Birmingham.) This was pretty routine. Now it's only individuals with bigotted employers or prominent people or venues next to schools that get exposed that way. The closest thing to the exposes of a decade ago was this one in Edinburgh last year, but even that ended with this wet lettuce conclusion: "Some of the things we saw might not have been out of place in a torture scene in a Quentin Tarantino film, but for a generation which has grown up on such fare - and much worse - there was nothing shocking or to make you want to turn away. It all feels uncomfortably normal." As other people have said, these advances are hard won by the people attending and organising events, by activists who lobby politicians and write in to newspapers, and by the legions of us out there just doing our BDSM and normalising it that way. We can't sit back and say it's all solved now, but equally doomsaying doesn't recognise the progress we've made.
And in other news, the sky is about to fall in. :T: www.tanos.org.uk | ||||
| 10 Jan 11, 1:41 PM backlash_uk UK, 5 yrs |
A jury, incidentally, which consisted of 8 females and 4 males.
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| 10 Jan 11, 2:27 PM Cassius UK, 3 yrs |
It is remarkable to me that on television,before the joke "watershed" even,one can see simulated murder and other foul crimes, yet anything smacking of people being nice to each other, beyond the very vanilla,is regarded as Bad. What a sense of values. If we really want bdsm to be fully accepted as an alternative lifestyle, however, we really ought publicly,for public consumption,in the media, to insist that SSC is the bedrock philosophy and that anybody who goes beyond it is not mainstream bdsm,in the same way as fascists and anarchists are outside mainstream politics. Practise senseless acts of beauty. Edited 10 Jan 11, 2:29 PM by Cassius | ||||
| 10 Jan 11, 3:15 PM Relaxed_and_Chaotic UK(SE), 3 yrs |
i am sure that everyone will be completely shocked at my inability to take you seriously lol! 
"There is no such thing as liberty. You only change one sort of domination for another. All we can do is to choose our master." D. H. Lawrence | ||||
| 10 Jan 11, 3:54 PM tanken UK(NR), 2 yrs |
I'm outside 'mainstream' politics, i.e. bourgeois politics and my fantasies are not SSC. Does that mean I should be ostracised on here? 'Kiss the boot of shiny, shiny leather' - Velvet Underground | ||||
| 10 Jan 11, 3:58 PM tanken UK(NR), 2 yrs |
Up until 1991 it was legally impossible to rape your own wife. It was also incredibly difficult for women to report rape because the process was as traumatic as the rape itself. Thankfully the law bucked its ideas up and made it easier for wives and other women to report their attacks. This is one reason for the increase in rape cases. Yes, some women make fake claims but I strongly reject your notion that a woman a week is imprisoned for false rape allegations (proof please) so therefore obviously women lie. The fact is that less than 6% of reported rapes result in male imprisonment. Don't take this as male innocence, but rather a justice system that still believes that women 'ask for it' and the fear of women making claims and going through their rapes over and over again. This means most of the raping bastards get away with it. http://survive.org.uk/maritalrape.html http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article... [/quote]
Totally agree and there is still a lot of progress to be made in basic relations between the sexes without the rearguard of humanity trying to drag us back wards
'Kiss the boot of shiny, shiny leather' - Velvet Underground |
