women hurting men (43)

Yes, It's probably not safe lol Well if it's consensual, then it shouldn't really be a need for concern! Then again, the do gooders in Westminster may have a different perspective, as they seem to be experts on what's deemed as offensive or disbursing material! That's a topic for another day!

Edited 9 Jan 11, 9:20 AM by Xrampage

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I see nothing wrong with frenzied extremity, obviously a market for it.

I know for a fact, extreme sells

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- I just saw something online that I don't personally go for.

- Well, that's life. Did it take place between consenting adults?

- Yes

- It's ok then. All you have to do is close the window and get on with your day.

- But someone could get hurt.

- That's kind of the point.

- But what they're doing's different to what I like doing! I find it upsetting.

- Stop looking at it then. Go and do what floats your boat and leave them to do whatever floats theirs.

- But if I do that, I'll have to acknowledge that the universe isn't tailor made to my needs!

- Ok, one step at a time. Why not chill out? Watch some television, take your mind off of it.

- Waaah! There's something on the television I find offensive.

There's a button on the front of it that switches it off. Use it and save yourself a lifetime of pointless worrying.

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I have noticed that the clips on cruella.com have been getting a little more realistic lately.

Does anyone know if they are using some tricks - or is it all filmed 'as-is'?

I was wondering if they have been dubbing some belt "cracks" at the point of impact to make it more realistic (and brutal!).

Several problems actually:

a) 'Fully functioning' -some of us, sufficient numbers of people to have mainstream culture and legislation on our side, consider someone who apparently consents to real serious harm ipso facto not in their right mind, i.e. legally not mentally competent to consent. Obviously a lot of people on here will be very annoyed about this perspective, but the fact is enough people see it that way for it to currently be the law. If the law did not define 'compos mentis' in this way, the definition of it would be subject to constant controversy, which would create a problem of vindicability which would affect respect for the law in general. E.g. I once saw a man in a bdsm club who I seriously doubted was compos mentis enough to consent -as the law stands, it's simple to argue where the line is -if he claims to consent to real serious harm he is automatically not considered mentally competent to consent to that, but if the legal definition required certification by a psychiatrist, it would be impractical for e.g. DM's in clubs, or anyone really, to intervene and say with the weight of law 'this should not happen'.

b) It has consequences for other relationships besides that between the two (or three or four etc.) individuals -e.g. if the consenting victim gets serious injuries that need medical treatment, then their relationship to society as a whole in the form of the NHS is involved -they're dependent on others for care, and others are obligated to care for them. They probably also have families, parents or offspring, who very probably think any consensual fairly-harmless sexual activities is their own business, but anything that is likely to cause real lasting harm to them is not just their own business.

I'm fully aware that most of the people on IC will disagree with me, and while I disagree with the conclusion **I respect the emphasis on individual freedom** implied in it, but to try to keep it balanced here's the other side's POV: essentially that we are not *actually* just isolated individuals, we live in a society, families care about people (perhaps misguidedly sometimes), and there are reasonable limits on individual freedom because of relationships that are not just individual-individual, because society is more than just an aggregate of individuals.

Perhaps it is oppressive domination for society to impose a certain moral perspective on individuals, but perhaps an individualistic and absolutely moral-relativistic/ amoral form of domination would be even worse.

E.g. the case of the two gay guys in germany in a bdsm relationship -one filmed himself very explicitly and emphatically consenting in advance to being killed and for his partner to cannibalise his body, specifically his penis. Logically, from the point of view that *absolutely* anything goes between consenting individuals, that would be OK too. It's a consistent logic, but the majority of the electorate disagree, so we have a law saying it's not OK.

The moral-philosophical questions against the mainstream and legal position are valid, and perhaps society in general and me are mistaken, perhaps it is really a misguided moralistic tyrannical imposition on individual liberty to say someone can't validly consent to be seriously harmed, but in the meantime till we resolve that question consensually as a society I think the standard "consensual and fairly harmless" is intended to be a **reasonable compromise**.

With this kind of film, how long will it be before the words fetish or BDSM go down the same route?

So, I see nothing wrong in the abuse side, nor the consent side, just the publication and sale of such. Simply dont buy it and they will find something else.

Keep it kinky!
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If this were the case then surley, Rugby, Hang gliding, Parachuting Motor sport and many other dangerous sports should be banned instantly. Because they cause their practions many, many serious lifethreatin and long term costly injuries every year, many more than all BDSM activity put togther, which the the taxpayer and a wider society has to pick the tab up for.

Or we say live an let live.

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Edited 9 Jan 11, 3:19 PM by Goddess_Asphyxia