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Dominant Vs Patronising (96)

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2 Jan 11, 11:21 PM
Empress_Martine
UK(HA), 2 yrs
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Moonlight_x wrote:
Dominant Vs Patronising

Something's been bugging me, I received a memo from a Dom recently, he had a great profile, seemed intelligent and didn't live far way and he kind of ticked all the right boxes on paper. However, his memo really created quite a strong reaction in me. It was very short and started with “Happy New Year to you girl.”

Now, I've been thinking about why I had a negative reaction to this and I've come to the conclusion that I really felt very patronised by that. I'm 40 years old, a professional and no dummy, it didn't feel like he was being dominant or assertive, just plain old patronising, even verging on being rude. Now I'm quite sure had I met this chap at a munch he would never have called me *girl* and would have probably shown a little more manners.

So what I've been thinking about is, where is the line between being dominated and being patronised drawn? This is more a general question about the where to draw the line rather than about this particular memo. I'd be interested to hear others thoughts on this...

Drawing the line is difficult but it is a fine line to some individuals. In this case, he did, in my estimation of the line, over stepped to mark. This was a getting to know you memo and he did it wrong. Nothing clicked so I would suggest you move on.

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2 Jan 11, 11:33 PM
Xrampage
UK(PR), 6 yrs
I agree, it should be a mutual arrangement with a list of limits between two like minded people! I'm a sub (I don't practice much these days because lost my enthusiasm), but at the end of the day, sub = submission! Happy New Year to you girl; is hardly what I call patronising!
2 Jan 11, 11:55 PM
Moonlight_x
UK(RG), 4 yrs
Moonlight_x wrote:
So what I've been thinking about is, where is the line between being dominated and being patronised drawn? This is more a general question about the where to draw the line rather than about this particular memo. I'd be interested to hear others thoughts on this...

Xrampage wrote:
I agree, it should be a mutual arrangement with a list of limits between two like minded people! I'm a sub (I don't practice much these days because lost my enthusiasm), but at the end of the day, sub = submission! Happy New Year to you girl; is hardly what I call patronising!

"I can assure you, Pleasure is very different from Happiness" Dorian Gray

Edited 3 Jan 11, 12:37 AM by Moonlight_x

3 Jan 11, 12:09 AM
Xrampage
UK(PR), 6 yrs
At the end of the day, you have to make a judgement based upon your feelings and intuition! If you don't feel comfortable, then follow your instincts! On the flip side of the coin, I have met some obnoxious Dommes in my time! Good luck in your search
3 Jan 11, 12:12 AM
Xrampage
UK(PR), 6 yrs
Don't worry, I'm use to being patronised lol
3 Jan 11, 12:15 AM
Moonlight_x
UK(RG), 4 yrs
Xrampage wrote:
Don't worry, I'm use to being patronised lol

I'm glad you got the irony ;-) x

"I can assure you, Pleasure is very different from Happiness" Dorian Gray

3 Jan 11, 12:41 AM
Xrampage
UK(PR), 6 yrs
I do understand what you mean. I don't really care if people are patronising towards me, it's what I think about myself is more important! I guess there are people out there, that are total control freaks! By patronising someone, you take away their confidence and self teem. You can call me boy any day of the week, it makes me feel young. Besides, I thought the way you patronised me was kind of sexy lol

Edited 3 Jan 11, 9:40 AM by Xrampage

3 Jan 11, 1:19 AM
Black0rchid
UK, 2 yrs

I love it when He patronises me and calls me "little girl". :)

Az me shloft mit hint, shtayt men oyf mit flay
If you lie down with the dogs, you get up with the fleas.

3 Jan 11, 3:54 AM
The_Majickian
UK(SW), 9 yrs

It seems to me he was conforming to stereotype.

To my mind, people often get off on calling subs girl/boy or whatever alternative takes their fancy as they see it as the done thing: this is what other people do, and it works for them. Many people who are on the receiving end of this also get thrills from it (I know, when I am so addressed by a Domme, my sap rises something chronic), but then some people, as yourself, find it demeaning and not really what they want. It's personal choice at the end of the day - if it doesn't suit you, walk away; or, if you want to explore, you could see what he means by that and whether it's hard-wired of a bolt-on cliche.

May you find that you seek.

Holmes: Meretricious
Lestrade: And a happy new year

3 Jan 11, 5:11 AM
Phantomdream
AU, 2 yrs
Moonlight_x wrote:
Dominant Vs Patronising

Something's been bugging me, I received a memo from a Dom recently, he had a great profile, seemed intelligent and didn't live far way and he kind of ticked all the right boxes on paper. However, his memo really created quite a strong reaction in me. It was very short and started with “Happy New Year to you girl.”

Now, I've been thinking about why I had a negative reaction to this and I've come to the conclusion that I really felt very patronised by that. I'm 40 years old, a professional and no dummy, it didn't feel like he was being dominant or assertive, just plain old patronising, even verging on being rude. Now I'm quite sure had I met this chap at a munch he would never have called me *girl* and would have probably shown a little more manners.

So what I've been thinking about is, where is the line between being dominated and being patronised drawn? This is more a general question about the where to draw the line rather than about this particular memo. I'd be interested to hear others thoughts on this...

Hmm...I kinda see what you mean...actually recently I got several memos from someone, which I thought was very patronising. I won't give out that person's name, because I do not wish to start a conflict with that person: I simply blocked that person on this site from contacting me again via memos, but here is the text of the very last memo with related quotes from the previous memos (without that person's name) just to show you what I mean about being needlessly patronising:

O_o

{...} wrote:
not you again lol

no problem - capture slave or sub; torture, humiliate and abuse - then beat yourself up with guilt. simples

Phantomdream wrote:
{...} wrote:
it's a deliberate (and probably pathetic) provocation in an attempt to liberate your inner Leather Domme

Phantomdream wrote:
{...} wrote:
just my opinion

self-repressed, probably fetishist rather than sadist, bondage and control rather than cruelty and pain, with a very definite interest in roleplay and style...

Hi :)

Just to clarify: is this your opinion about one of my posts? Which one?

That's interesting. I never saw myself as a Domme: I'm actually a quiet, submissive kinda person. I believe I'm much more likely a submissive. The idea of being dominant makes me uncomfortable for some reason.

Edited 3 Jan 11, 5:29 AM by Phantomdream

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