The Catch 22 Situation (9)

I suppose this is applicable to me due to being a Personal Trainer, but the thought of having to train your Master/Mistress because of some particular goal they want to achieve, whether this be increasing fitness levels, losing some weight, increasing muscle bulk, improving general body tone. Whatever...

Now, obviously as a PT I'd want to make sure I do my job, treat the person as any other client, helping them achieve their goals. Making them happy would make me happy, and not because they own me, but because I take pride in my work!

However, once the session is over, the Dominant then turns around and in a slightly mischeivious way wants to take out their revenge on you, because you have worked them hard, the whole, "You made me do press ups, and you know how much I hate doing press ups!" kinda thing. Exacting their revenge on me...

Also, I'm the kind of person who would never cut short, my time with a client, possibly giving a couple minutes over than to not give the full hour, but say you do run overtime, the Dominant has noticed this and halfway through the session grabs you by the hair and makes you realise that your hour is up! Also, god forbid you try and undercut the time because they would notice that too and take it out on you.

Now the slightly perverse part of me also kind of likes the idea of having the Dominant use some of the equipment they had to use as punishment. Something mundane, EG Holding a medicine Ball above your head for a period of time that is decided by the Dom/me, or arms outstretched with the weight. Maybe being strapped to the cable pulley machine to receive a flogging or some such.

I realise this would only really happen in a Non gym environment but not all PT has to happen in a gym, in fact a lot of PTs can go straight to the client's home, and if the person is your Dom/me then you'd possibly be doing the session in your home/their home or somewhere relatively remote.

Also this would only really work if you haven't overworked them. How shattered would they be? Would they actually be too achy to inflict anything on you? Also knowing about the possibility of 'revenge' would I want to over, or underwork them. Is revenge a dish best served cold in this case?

Anyway, my explaination isn't for my giving out a fantasy as such. I'm just curious if there are times in a relationship where subs have, for some reason had to 'Top' their Dom/me, where the Dominant has to listen to the submissive and do as their told for that duration then afterwards wanted to have their wicked way with them?

I also realise there are going to be people here who claim that because of the job the sub would be in fear of punishment etc and it might be taking advantage of the dynamic etc, but if both parties are ok with the situation then there's no harm to either so no nay sayers please!

I'm a woman! We don't say what we WANT! But we reserve the right to get pissed off if we don't get it. That's what makes us so fascinating! And not a little bit scary.
Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Didn't actually watch the film myself, but the audio track was sufficiently annoying that it kept intruding, which was annoying, but I had already agreed she could rent and watch this particular piece of hollywood rom-com crapola.

Anyway, she had this thing for clows, a negative thing, very negative.

So, I downloaded Killer Klowns from Outer Space and made her watch it twice in a row, with instructions to pay attention because there would be a quiz afterwards.

I have very fond memories of that film now... >;^)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095444/

edit to correct typo

I'm not cynical mate, just experienced.

Edited 26 Dec 10, 5:22 PM by Asshole_Magnet

I guess in a personal training scenario, the incentive to exact revenge in return for the truly vindictive way that some of them push their clients would make more sense!

"We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking up at the stars." - Oscar Wilde
"You should make a point of trying every experience once, excepting incest and folk dancing." - Sir Arnold Bax

i suspect that in a sense many acts of service require that a Dom/me accept the recommendations (i can't bring myself to say orders or even wishes!) of a sub.

Example. For many years He took care of all the finances and budgeting for the household. my spending was strictly limited and monitored and i had to explain the reasons for my expenditures. Several months ago He asked me to take over the budget and to establish the weekly balance of disposable income W/we have available. He does decide how that will be used, how much i will be allowed, and He still has access to cheque books, receipts, etc etc so His control is never far away. Nevertheless, a considerable part of the financial decision making falls to me. Which means that every now and again, i have to rein in some of His wilder extravagances -- generally book buying sprees or obscene amounts being dropped on obscure, illegal and dismal recordings by Bob Dylan.

Hiswhore.

Edited to add: He gets His own back by making me listen to His already vast collection of Bob Dylan recordings on a daily basis. Yes, Bob Dylan is currently a sore point with me.

Edited 26 Dec 10, 5:34 PM by Hiswhore

But...

You would benefit from a fitter, healthier and stronger Dom. D/s sessions wouldn't be limited by his fatigue and his blows would be harder. So really I see it as a win-win for both parties.

A dirty mind is a joy for life.

See this is the kind of post I was expecting unfortunately.

It wouldn't be a contract as such, the Dom in question would be 'my' Dom I would be His sub/slave accept when delivering a personal training session...

The above scenario would not be applicable to just any old Dominant, there would be a relationship there already. It wouldn't be a case of every single Dominant who says hi is going to have me crawling and mewling at their feet within seconds.

I was asking about already established relationships, not about every random Dom/me. If there were times that the submissive had to have control over something to do with the relationship, a damned if you do and damned if you don't situation.

I'm a woman! We don't say what we WANT! But we reserve the right to get pissed off if we don't get it. That's what makes us so fascinating! And not a little bit scary.
Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

"There was only one catch and that was Catch-22, which specified that a concern for one's safety in the face of dangers that were real and immediate was the process of a rational mind. Orr was crazy and could be grounded. All he had to do was ask; and as soon as he did, he would no longer be crazy and would have to fly more missions. Orr would be crazy to fly more missions and sane if he didn't, but if he were sane he had to fly them. If he flew them he was crazy and didn't have to; but if he didn't want to he was sane and had to. Yossarian was moved very deeply by the absolute simplicity of this clause of Catch-22 and let out a respectful whistle."

Edited 27 Dec 10, 1:04 AM by Ianneil

I'm not suggesting that this is "any old dominant". What I'm suggesting is that you're giving him something that is within your professional realm and that therefore the D/s dynamic would be professionally compromised.

Ultimately it wouldn't matter because you end up with a fitter Dom so you both win.

Where I've asked a sub to take the lead in something that is their area of expertise it would be perverse (not in a good way) for me to then turn it around and use it as a stick to beat them with.

Perhaps I'm just missing the point.

A dirty mind is a joy for life.

But that is what I was trying to get across in my OP. That I realise it would be compromising me professionally, but if we had that kind of relationship, surely it would be fantastic.

I guess it appeals because I always think of all the male subs who seem to memo or message me asking me to Top/Domme them, and I try to explain that the ONLY time that would appeal was for me to do something so much to the point where they just think 'Fuck it!' and completely turn the tables on me exact their revenge. But as I said, that is what appeals to me. It's why I could never be a Domme and it would never appeal to me.

So for me, for my case, it wouldn't bother me, as long as I was allowed to do the full hour, to benefit the Dom.... I would be doing my best to help them to achieve their goals. For that hour I would be doing my job, but that doesn't stop the fact that the underlying relationship still does exist.

I'm a woman! We don't say what we WANT! But we reserve the right to get pissed off if we don't get it. That's what makes us so fascinating! And not a little bit scary.
Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

The evilness of PTs though may end with different results! I suggest a written contract about what it is OK to put them through first, like one of those BDSM checklists but modified (eg: no assault courses) and then they don't get to go back on it in a session but can discuss it calmly and rationally outside of exercise time :D