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| 21 Dec 10, 9:08 PM Grimly UK(IV), 10 yrs   |
But if you had a couple I would not put you in "The Chair" Its not about being relaxed, it's about being a bit scared and feeling everything that happens. Its not sensory deprivation, its sensory overload I'm not just politically incorrect ….I'm politically incoherent!!! | ||||
| 21 Dec 10, 9:10 PM Grimly UK(IV), 10 yrs |
littlesaintnic I am very safe and I make sure the people I play with stay safe!
I'm not just politically incorrect ….I'm politically incoherent!!! | ||||
| 21 Dec 10, 9:17 PM Beau_Tox UK(CB), 7 yrs  |
I have NO intention of "getting over" the dangers of people navigating a one ton steel killing machine whilst distracted by their mobile telecommunications device. You didn't deny it, so I guess that's an admission. And if that's the case, I'll gladly join this queue of people you refer to who feel the same about your hypocracy. Perhaps we can compare statistics regarding death-by-flogger and death-by-using-a-mobile-whilst-driving, if you want to continue to pretend you own any kind of moral high ground. . | ||||
| 21 Dec 10, 9:22 PM inappropriate  UK(CF), 3 yrs |
I don't know you at all so, no. But then I wouldn't trust someone I didn't know to do that to me anyway. I can think of at least one person I'd let play with me whilst drunk in this situation. But then I know what he's like. At the end of the day, I guess it's a judgement call based on lots of different things. | ||||
| 21 Dec 10, 9:27 PM littlenic 5 yrs |
Not the question I asked. I guess the point a lot of people who are happy to drink and play are making is that the forms of play they indulge in may differ when they've had a drink, because obviously there are some things that get a bit more risky after a few. Where that line lies - the acts, the amount of alcohol - will vary from person to person, and couple to couple. You seem to be describing some kind of electrocution device (I haven't seen the photo, nor do I care to - linking to something on a site I don't use is going to have that result I'm afraid) and then saying you'd be too unsafe to use it after two drinks. So you seem to be making the point that the drinkers make - that some things (and you consider this to be one of them for yourself) are possibly best left till sober times. So I don't really understand the point of your post, sorry. | ||||
| 21 Dec 10, 9:28 PM Grimly UK(IV), 10 yrs |
I dont make the rules for others, I just make them for me and those I play with. If people dont want to play to my rules then they dont play with me. What other people do is up to them. I dont drink and play because I want to be in contol of everything I do with no errors, what I do can be on the edge and safety matters. I'm not just politically incorrect ….I'm politically incoherent!!! Edited 21 Dec 10, 9:37 PM by Grimly | ||||
| 21 Dec 10, 9:44 PM Mistress_Maud 3 yrs |
Substitute play with life and that's pretty much why I don't drink. Stimulants and entactogens? Perhaps on occasion. Alcohol is just so unsuited to BDSM I can't quite believe anyone seriously thinks it's a good combination. The only common scenario I've heard of it being used is to "kill nerves", you'd think after being in the scene for any length of time you'd get over your nerves playing in public or otherwise. I just find it difficult to reconcile playing a dominant part in a scene and feeling the need to ingest alcohol to be able to perform. I'm a fairly shy and awkward person socially but if I don't feel naturally absolutely confident about what I'm doing in a scene I simply won't do it. | ||||
| 21 Dec 10, 9:51 PM tanken UK(NR), 2 yrs  |
It's fair enough if you are teetotal and I would have no problem playing with someone who is but I don't think that you can legislate for everyone's play especially when it might be rather casual and no-one is going to get hurt anyway. 
'Kiss the boot of shiny, shiny leather' - Velvet Underground | ||||
| 21 Dec 10, 10:09 PM Mistress_Maud 3 yrs |
People can do what they like. Just not with my girl, I wouldn't play with a drunk sub I wouldn't want her submitting to anyone under the influence. | ||||
| 21 Dec 10, 10:17 PM DontSpareTheRod UK(W), 4 yrs |
I must say some of the adament (no drink while play) arguments are a little all encompasing. do you drink and play encompases I won't have a thimble of shandy and hold someone down with one hand with their hair held tight in the other. it also encompases i won't drink a bottle of vodka and do some flame play. Oh and by the way as far as car's go, the drink drive limit is based on an object waying over a tonn "CONSTANTLY" (this is important as while you play you conciously make one movement at a time, where as in a car once you get to your optimal speed you maintain it) taveling at lets say 60 miles and hour, a reaction time impared by one second = 88 feet a second. Now unless your play includes a 1 tonn object traveling at a constant 88 feet a second, the comparison between drink driving and play is not a very good one. So really there are a whole lot of inconsistencies, alot of unanswered variables. Basicaly telling people they are morons for playing and drinking at the same time is a completely shoddy argument. If an argument of this sort is made then really it needs to be more specific. This does not mean a clear no drink along with any sort of play is not a sensible choice to make, it just doesn't mean that someone who drinks and plays is not being sensible. I beleive in Karma, it basicaly means i can be as cruel to people as i like and just asume they deserve it |
