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| 13 Dec 10, 10:25 PM Dreadnought UK(GL), 17 mths   |
Ah, the mistake you made there was quoting an article from a right wing newspaper in regards to rights and freedoms. Of course the mail is going to put spins like that on things and only quote those which support that view. Most charitable organisations set up to help women are going to get that reputation from the daily mail because the opinion of supporters of that publication is that poor people who need help are all terrible, violent, drug addicted simpletons. It's probably better to pick and choose your sources. No offence to you, mate. | ||
| 13 Dec 10, 10:26 PM Winston_Smith 5 yrs |
Actually Erin Pizzey's testimony is being offered up as factual. Are you saying she is a liar? On the whole human beings want to be good, but not too good and not quite all the time. | ||
| 13 Dec 10, 10:28 PM shit_sub UK(W), 5 yrs |
nope, i was saying that something on the internets was mildly amusing. i won't make the same mistake twice. | ||
| 13 Dec 10, 10:37 PM SnowdropExplodes UK(TN), 7 yrs |
On the Erin Pizzey thing - I was familiar with her opinions already, particularly concerning shleters etc, but the Daily Mail article just demonstrates that she doesn't actually know what feminism is or was. However, that whole thing is a complete red-herring and (apparently successful) attempt to derail the thread. The fact that abusive types show up in a particular social grouping does not automatically negate the value of that social group or the services designed to help the people in that group. Back on-topic for the thread: personally I have always been aware of social issues around the world, and kink involvement hasn't changed that./ however, being aware of power dynamics in a much more explicit way through understanding D/s has, I feel, given me better understanding of how some situations pan out. | ||
| 13 Dec 10, 10:49 PM Asshole_Magnet UK(EX), 22 mths |
I happen to think she does, it's marxism, pure and simple. I'm not cynical mate, just experienced. | ||
| 14 Dec 10, 12:21 PM valleyrose17 UK(BS), 2 yrs |
lol
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| 14 Dec 10, 12:35 PM ButterflyInChains UK(OX), 19 mths |
I think everything I spend any time being a part of opens my eyes to something I hadn't necessarily been aware of, or at least had a particularly strong opinion on, whether it was from women's rights during labour when I was pregnant or the effects poverty has on some low-income families when my children were told they had to start wearing a specific, expensive part of uniform or the rights of adults to do what they wish to do so consentingly through being involved in this scene, so, yes, ofc, but if it did not then I'd be quite surprised, it's how we form opinions, no? Through experience and comparison? Don't make some-one a priority if they only make you an option | ||
| 14 Dec 10, 2:48 PM Richtea UK(BN), 2 yrs  |
I suppose, to a certain extent, it must, but only in the way that every other interaction has some effect. It's entirely possible, in fact it's probable, that I may become aware of some specific social issue that I didn't know about before, but a documentary on the telly would do that. At my age I think my social awareness or sense of right and wrong is pretty much set in stone, and is unlikely to be influenced greatly by any group I associate with. My kink has no more bearing on my world view than my love of golf. "I just love you for that beat, beat, beat, beat, beating." | ||
| 14 Dec 10, 2:53 PM idonna UK(SM), 21 mths |
For me awareness came when one of my friends told a group of us about her abusive marriage.
I am participating in an online support group for women who have experienced abuse. It had opened my eyes to mechanisms of behaviour of both parties and the more I know about it the easier I can recognise symptoms. It was eye opening to me (being sheltered in a way,by not having experienced it first hand in my marriage which ended for different reasons or close family). It did come well before my interest in bdsm. | ||
| 14 Dec 10, 2:54 PM Arbuthnot UK(E), 7 yrs |
Marxism is far from simple. Karl Marx said he was not a Marxist. Would you care to offer a definition? Or are you just bandying about a term of which you have no real understanding?
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