12 Dec 10, 11:21 PM jools_searching UK(WD), 20 mths £ 
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For me, when I'm getting flinchy I notice my jaw tenses. If I concentrate on relaxing it specifically, some of the associated anxiety goes away.
Next time, see if you can notice which parts of you tense up and make an effort to relax them. |
12 Dec 10, 11:25 PM BasicJ 7 yrs  |
Flinching if you anticipate an impact is NORMAL and sane.. it is the desire for such impact and wish to inhibit this rational response....that is not!
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13 Dec 10, 2:56 PM Herr_Molemann UK, 18 mths |
BadWulf wrote:
Would be nice if you answered indelibles points, you don't say what sort of reaction you seek to achieve which is fairly fundamental to helping you  "My, what sharp teeth I have."
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Yes, but what a dull wit. |
13 Dec 10, 8:04 PM MysTeri UK(B), 3 yrs
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I just have to say I prefer flinchers to those who are like logs of wood.... a little pre action flinch is good (part of the fun) and reaction is even better (I know I had an effect).... don't try to stop it, I've had to tell some subs it's no fun using cp on them as they just lie there... do flinch, do 'ow', do climb up the cross.... 
Edited 14 Dec 10, 4:06 PM by MysTeri
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14 Dec 10, 2:08 AM Herr_Molemann UK, 18 mths |
thelastdot wrote:
Rewiring the brain.
Some time ago my nervous system developed a conditioned response in anticipation of being hit. This means that I flinch badly in certain situations.
I understand and accept why it happens, and have even tried to embrace it as a sign that he has touched my very basic workings, but truly... in my heart... it really frustrates me.
I would very much like to hear from anyone who has used further conditioning to try to resolve issues of this nature. What helped and what didn't?
Many thanks,
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I would like to add a footnote to this discussion and draw a line under it.
you have been my 'slave'/sub/other wife - the semantic distinctions become increasingly blurred as time progresses - for 13 years. I cannot describe the feeling of love and tenderness and absolute power that washes over me when I see you flinch, knowing that you know what is coming to you, yet offering yourself to Me so selflessly. That minuscule, involuntary reflex; the turning of your head, the widening of your pupils or the clenching of your muscles just before my hand smashes into you and a thousandtinydroplettsofblood explode, like red mist from an atomiser, into the heavy, expectant, air.
I would like to thank all those who have offered kind words of encouragement and sound advice. But I agree with Nutcracker - Don't try to stop it. Accept it and embrace it - it is who you are and I ask for none other.
yours, always.
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14 Dec 10, 11:54 AM SirOpenSource UK(E), 6 yrs 

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IndelibleMarker wrote:
thelastdot wrote:
Rewiring the brain.
Some time ago my nervous system developed a conditioned response in anticipation of being hit. This means that I flinch badly in certain situations.
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What do you mean by "badly"? As has been said, flinching is a natural reaction your body uses to ready itself/avoid any impact.
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I understand and accept why it happens, and have even tried to embrace it as a sign that he has touched my very basic workings, but truly... in my heart... it really frustrates me. |
Well, that depends what badly means! The harder the apparent impact will come and higher the chance your brain percieves the impact the stronger the flinch... If you whole body goes into spasms and you start foaming at the mouth - well that's more of a flinch than one would expect...
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I would very much like to hear from anyone who has used further conditioning to try to resolve issues of this nature. What helped and what didn't?
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What do you want to help? I mean I know it can be frustrating when my sub tries to block or avoid slaps/punches etc from me and I have various ways I can resolve it, though I haven't conditioned her to stop it ever. Wouldn't particularly want to.
I can think of ways that it could be achieved... But what is the actual outcome that you want to achieve?
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I see where you are coming from and believe their is much more to this than simple additional conditioning which could make the original problem worse and more confusing.
Issues such as this should not be dealt with on boards like this but in a professional manner with full support.
SCS
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14 Dec 10, 3:25 PM steved14 UK(TW), 5 yrs  |
thelastdot wrote:
Rewiring the brain.
Some time ago my nervous system developed a conditioned response in anticipation of being hit. This means that I flinch badly in certain situations.
I understand and accept why it happens, and have even tried to embrace it as a sign that he has touched my very basic workings, but truly... in my heart... it really frustrates me.
I would very much like to hear from anyone who has used further conditioning to try to resolve issues of this nature. What helped and what didn't?
Many thanks,
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Question when younger were you beaten ?
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14 Dec 10, 7:01 PM reacher UK, 17 mths  |
I would suggest NLP - I am not a practitioner but I do believe it works quite well.
There is also something called time line therapy and you would have to find a practitioner for it as well.
Good luck |
14 Dec 10, 11:47 PM SirOpenSource UK(E), 6 yrs 

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DanceToOwnTune wrote:
reacher wrote:
I would suggest NLP - I am not a practitioner but I do believe it works quite well.
There is also something called time line therapy and you would have to find a practitioner for it as well.
Good luck
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Time line therapy is good and would work here to. I can do that to. Another way to reprocess the event
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You must be an expert and highly competent practitioner to diagnose and draw up a treatment plan over the internet without even meeting the person.
SCS
The Titter group - for when you don't feel too serious. I believe in equality for everyone, except reporters and photographers. - Mahatma Gandhi
www.Londonmunch.co.uk
Londonmunch@hotmail.com - Enquiries
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15 Dec 10, 11:19 AM xAdamx UK(SE), 9 yrs
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thelastdot wrote:
Rewiring the brain.
Some time ago my nervous system developed a conditioned response in anticipation of being hit. This means that I flinch badly in certain situations.
I understand and accept why it happens, and have even tried to embrace it as a sign that he has touched my very basic workings, but truly... in my heart... it really frustrates me.
I would very much like to hear from anyone who has used further conditioning to try to resolve issues of this nature. What helped and what didn't?
Many thanks,
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A natural reaction....from my understanding and what l have been shown by my slave is to say to the reciever of a spank is the next time you flinch l will give you 2 hard spanks....this introduces a suggestion into the mind, if you then flinch at the next anticipated strike, your dom/domme then gives you the 2 extra hard spanks...
This action affirms the suggestion...given practice..you will stop flinching..
only god can judge me
Edited 15 Dec 10, 11:33 AM by xAdamx
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