8 Dec 10, 12:32 AM faeryboi 6 yrs |
As this thread has turned into a 3 ring circus i thought i may as well throw in a dancing bear, tiger tamer and a few clowns........... oh no . its a link to the website where the council are requesting customers feedback on the matter.
I guess my questions are why? why now? and who are the people making the decisions
http://www.hackney.gov.uk/3450.htm
He got a real pretty mouth aint he!
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8 Dec 10, 12:35 AM GirlAfraid UK, 3 yrs |
chesterfieldslave wrote:
When you say you come from east london no doubt it will be from one of the more affluent area's that hasnt been killed by islamic extremism as of yet. With the strong emergance of shariah law in east london mosques and some councils being totally run by Islamic Extremists this is not a suprise at all.
BDSM players aswell as gays ,jews and women are the groups most under threat so be careful what you wish for. If you want me to provide links for what I have written about I am happy to oblige , no doubt you will come up with the usual 'Islamophobia' bollocks however this act by the council stinks of 'christianophia' or the more common term of 'westernophobia'
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Wow.
This is...
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8 Dec 10, 12:44 AM pleasureswitch UK(E), 6 yrs 
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faeryboi wrote:
As this thread has turned into a 3 ring circus i thought i may as well throw in a dancing bear, tiger tamer and a few clowns........... oh no . its a link to the website where the council are requesting customers feedback on the matter.
I guess my questions are why? why now? and who are the people making the decisions
http://www.hackney.gov.uk/3450.htm
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I did hear that local Councils were worried as the recesion bit and there were lots of vacant premises lots of new lap dancing clubs would spring up. I don't know if this is the case here.
Also it's not clear to me if established premises have to apply each year for a new licence (like pubs) and will be shut down or if it applies to new ventures. "Yeah I like Kinky stuff,dirty dark pervy stuff,weird sex....
An' Yerself ?"
Award Winning Switch.
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8 Dec 10, 12:48 AM Empress_Martine UK(HA), 2 yrs £ 

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Tanos wrote:
Note that "sex shops" are defined in the 1982 act like this:
Local Government (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 1982, Schedule 3 wrote:
4. — (1) In this Schedule “sex shop” means any premises, vehicle, vessel or stall used for a business which consists to a significant degree of selling, hiring, exchanging, lending, displaying or demonstrating—
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(b)
other things intended for use in connection with, or for the purpose of stimulating or encouraging—
(ii) acts of force or restraint which are associated with sexual activity.
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http://www.statutelaw.gov.uk/content.aspx?LegTyp...
If you run a shop where the stock is to a "significant degree" bondage gear, you need one of these sex shop licenses, and the Labour administration in Hackney are proposing to issue no such licenses.
This would effect Expectations, a long-established BDSM/fetish shop many of us are familiar with (it's the one in "Preaching to the Perverted" too.)
:T:
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There is way to mess up their plans.Under european law,hackney council's plan come under restrictive trade laws,therefore their plans are deemed illegal because they are restricting free trade at a local level that could effect the european union on the national level and therefore a criminal offence against the EU,since a vast amount of bdsm gear is made in the EU.By enacting this law,the councillors could wind up in prison and this rotten part of london will be absorbed and things return to normal. http://empressm7.uboot.com/ Vampire pro/lifestyle ts dom and switch. Age play mummy,medical play , domestic ,sexual energy and outdoor specialist. "Beyond the government,above the police ."
Edited 8 Dec 10, 12:53 AM by Empress_Martine
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8 Dec 10, 12:52 AM Attitude_Adjuster UK(N), 6 yrs 
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Ugly_Betty wrote:
Attitude_Adjuster wrote:
El_Prezzie_dente wrote:
How does outright prohibition serve anyone better than judicious regulation?
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I may hazard a guess that in the current climate, maintaining the structures and staff for such applications is regarded as an expense they can't afford, with the convenient moral stance being taken to legitimise not providing a service that they otherwise have a statutory duty to....
Is Sh! in Hackney too?
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Strictly speaking it is classed as being part of Islington,
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http://local.direct.gov.uk/LDGRedirect/LocationS...
Streetmap agrees.
ETA: though its at odds with the blurb on Expectations site and elsewhere.... And all men kill the thing they love, By all let this be heard,
Some do it with a bitter look, Some with a flattering word,
The coward does it with a kiss, The brave man with a sword!
Edited 8 Dec 10, 12:58 AM by Attitude_Adjuster
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8 Dec 10, 1:03 AM Ianneil UK(N), 5 yrs 
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pleasureswitch wrote:
chesterfieldslave wrote:
As I forgot to mention about the true hatred shown by muslims against innocent jews in Whitechapel please see the attached link. Now please let me know if you all still believe this incident in Hackney has nothing to do with my original post. There are some deluded people on here but I think I have just proven how naive they are.
http://www.thelondondailynews.com/whitechapel-ra...
israel protest.jpg
A Starbucks in Whitechapel was firebombed yesterday in what police think is the latest in a series of anti-Semitic attacks.
The coffee shop's Chief executive Howard Schultz is Jewish, and cops are treating the incident as racially motivated.
A manager was trapped inside and saw the intruders smashing their way into the building on Whitechapel Road as they hurled a petrol bomb at the front window.
There have been several 'hate' incidents in East London which have included sick anti-Semitic graffiti, believed to be linked to protests over Israel's operations in Gaza.
Asian gang attack Tesco driver
Just four hours earlier, a gang of Asian youths hurled a brick at a Tesco delivery van half-a-mile away, and then attacked the driver as he drove through Canon Street Road. The 45-year-old driver was later treated for a head injury and needed seven stitches.
Cops confirmed the youths were Asian, who were wearing dark tops and may have been seen outside a fast food restaurant earlier.
'Kill Jews'
The new Tesco Metro supermarket in Stepney Green's Commercial Road was also targeted at the weekend when several windows were smashed and the words 'kill Jews' was daubed in paint.
A similer slogan was on the wall of a children's playground on Whitechapel's Chicksand housing estate last week.
Priest attacked
Last year a group of Asian thugs battered a priest outside his own church nearby in Shadwell, and earlier a brick was thrown through the church window during mass as youths screamed 'this should be a mosque not a church.' Rev Alan Green, Dean of Tower Hamlets claimed there were 'faith hate' incidents in east London every month.
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To any sane person reading this I'd just like to point out that these stories are all LIES, not misinterperation not spin but good old fashioned LIES. I live in this area (not 150 miles away) these places are a walk from my home. Thes e things HAVEN'T EVER HAPPENED! If they had of happened I would heard about it, I would have personal knowledge of these thing. I don't have because they have never happened. These are LIES!
I would much sooner return to the OP AND NOT HAVE TO WADE THROUGH THIS INSANE SHIT. So this is my last such post on this subject.
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Just to back that up a little I do agency driving for Tesco and if a driver had been attacked that would have been hot news gossip for months. Never heard of it.
Being the way Tesco and JS and Iceland (I work for all of them occionally) are so H&S obsessed any shop in that area would have special arrangements made IF there was a problem.
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8 Dec 10, 1:04 AM Ishmael UK(SE), 12 yrs
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I've no very clear idea what the agenda behind this is, but if only to support Sh! and Expectations, I think it's important that this initiative of Hackney Coucil be opposed.
I've worked in Hackney for more than twenty years, and I've never formed the impression that the local authority is particularly dominated by people that favour Islam, if anything I would have thought a combination of New Labour Puritanism and Nigerian Christianity were the dominant idealogies in this.
It merits our opposition as an anti-sex diktat, whatever the political or religious inclinations of those behind it. Burns Night will take place on Saturday 29th January at The Factory, Romford, from 8pm.
The Factory is not liscenced for the sale of alcohol, so please bring your own, but soft drinks are on sale.
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8 Dec 10, 2:07 AM Trussedworthy UK(NW), 6 yrs 
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Oi! You lot, stop hijacking!
Your religious, political and racial persuasions aside. The principle is this, and will apply to ANY council or local authority, whatever their motivation.
Proposing a local, borough-wide (nimby) prohibition of legally-licenced businesses is wrong.
Bear in mind London councils often tend to follow suit once they see another borough successfully implement a policy (parking charges, congestion charges, privately run parking wardens, wheel clamping, car removals, cycle lanes are just a few examples of ideas that have spread in such a way).
There is a very real danger that if one borough operates a "nil" policy towards sexually-orientated establishments others will follow. Be in no doubt other councils will be watching the outcome to see how "popular" the implementation of such a ban seems before deciding on their own policies. If the policy gathers momentum in London, how long before it spreads to other towns and cities across the country?
There is also a very real danger that occasional licences for "sexually-orientated" events will be considered in the same light. Which councillor on any licencing comittee would be brave enough to voice approval for a "pervy party" when employed by a council which operates a "nil" policy towards "sex" establishments?
Need I point out the importance of opposing what could be the thin end of a wedge, which if unopposed could have the potential to eventually lead to a ban on ALL fetish shops, markets, clubs and events.
Sure the majority may not care, but if a minority do, they'd best be vociferous and let it be known.. Edited 8 Dec 10, 2:11 AM by Trussedworthy
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8 Dec 10, 4:22 AM Empress_Martine UK(HA), 2 yrs £ 

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Trussedworthy wrote:
Oi! You lot, stop hijacking!
Your religious, political and racial persuasions aside. The principle is this, and will apply to ANY council or local authority, whatever their motivation.
Proposing a local, borough-wide (nimby) prohibition of legally-licenced businesses is wrong.
Bear in mind London councils often tend to follow suit once they see another borough successfully implement a policy (parking charges, congestion charges, privately run parking wardens, wheel clamping, car removals, cycle lanes are just a few examples of ideas that have spread in such a way).
There is a very real danger that if one borough operates a "nil" policy towards sexually-orientated establishments others will follow. Be in no doubt other councils will be watching the outcome to see how "popular" the implementation of such a ban seems before deciding on their own policies. If the policy gathers momentum in London, how long before it spreads to other towns and cities across the country?
There is also a very real danger that occasional licences for "sexually-orientated" events will be considered in the same light. Which councillor on any licencing comittee would be brave enough to voice approval for a "pervy party" when employed by a council which operates a "nil" policy towards "sex" establishments?
Need I point out the importance of opposing what could be the thin end of a wedge, which if unopposed could have the potential to eventually lead to a ban on ALL fetish shops, markets, clubs and events.
Sure the majority may not care, but if a minority do, they'd best be vociferous and let it be known..
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And that is why every law must be explored and used against them,investigate those planning this nil policy and expose their hidden secrets in public,e.g. sex crimes,frued,drink drive offences etc and by doing this action,remove this corrupt local government and bring hackney into the 21st century. http://empressm7.uboot.com/ Vampire pro/lifestyle ts dom and switch. Age play mummy,medical play , domestic ,sexual energy and outdoor specialist. "Beyond the government,above the police ."
Edited 8 Dec 10, 4:25 AM by Empress_Martine
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8 Dec 10, 5:52 AM ClassAct2005 UK(N), 7 yrs  |
Local devolution is an interesting issue. Why should you pay no university fees if you live in Scotland (or presectiption charges) and the English do and indeed pay through our taxes to ensure the Scots don't? The other one in the press is that Swiss Canton (they decide a lot in Switzerland by very local referenda) to ban Mosque minarets. There are new plans to let people form local groups in areas for planning purposes in the UK too. Given people tend to congregate by people like them that can lead to decisions which even further drive out the minority so is that freedom or not? It's a difficult issue. |