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| 25 Nov 10, 7:03 PM Lady_Lancashire 23 mths £ |
Amnesty International had a conference a few years ago about Domestic Violence. They had a speaker explaining about BDSM and the difference. The police are aware of kink. The Red Rose Whispers Of Passion (J o'B R) | ||
| 25 Nov 10, 7:14 PM Agent_Cooper UK(CF), 4 yrs  |
BDSM and DA are different things and it's very unlikely that someone in the scene are going to be in a situation where we would get caught up in these changes. The thing about these proposals are that the victim and any children aren't going to be further victimized. Refuges are good, much needed, but often woman and children in these are not able to continue with their every day lives. | ||
| 25 Nov 10, 7:35 PM postcentral_gyrus UK, 4 yrs  |
I suppose in some cases that IF the police did call round to find your partner either injured or in bondage etc etc.
And they ask that person and they replied "everything is OK, we are into BDSM"
Knowing some police who are jobsworths they might not believe the consent? I have seen real domestic violence where the man was beating up his wife and the wife ALWAYS said it was OK. Because she loved him, I suppose ? But because of the current law the police used to ignore it? I also know a Pro Domme who was married, she had all equipment at home and was hit on a regular basis by her husband. She even called the police more than once and when they turned and saw various pieces of equipment they weren't interested. Must admit never understood their marriage as he was a total knobhead who didn't even live the dynamic with her. Mind you she is rid of that man now and enjoys a BDSM relationship of which she is the Domme. Fascinating really, just wish it was me as she is total class. But in answer to the thread question. Yeah maybe the proposed law could be used in both ways? PCG | ||
| 25 Nov 10, 7:49 PM Lush_Life UK(NW), 2 yrs |
Your question "where does this leave us as bdsmers and the likely impact?" No impact whatsoever. Such a small risk I would not worry about it.
Us "bdsmers" seem scared our own shadows half the time. I thought people got off on fear play ? No one is after us/you/them. "They" (which is "us") could not give a flying fook.
"You might well think that; I couldn't possibly comment" | ||
| 25 Nov 10, 8:16 PM Beau_Tox UK(CB), 7 yrs  |
Watersports as well? The police would have a field day. | ||
| 25 Nov 10, 8:19 PM sharktooth UK, 3 yrs |
Well, from the way it's been reported so far - and from how similar schemes have worked in the past elsewhere - that's probably more accurately stated as "only the man is ejected, not the woman". (Couples who aren't heterosexual give the police a huge headache!) | ||
| 25 Nov 10, 8:58 PM Ghedes_Princess UK(SW), 6 yrs  |
I for one am glad of all new legislation to protect people who are being abused. I don't care if it might affect my personal preferences in theory. If an incident in reported to the police (involving two people in an "intimate" relationship), it is already no longer necessary for the victim to press charges. In my experience more recently (at least since 2004 when I first encountered it, but I am not sure when the law changed) the police do not need a statement from the victim to charge the abuser. In fact even where a statement from the victim refutes the alleged violence, and they believe they have evidence (maybe from witness statements), the CPS can choose to prosecute. This is fine by me. I can't count how many times I would have been saved by these guidelines if they were in existence 10 years ago. The new proposal is a great idea in theory. 4 weeks can give a woman (or man) time to get away. In practice I doubt that it will have a positive effect in most cases though, as the victim is likely not going to leave anyway. Sometimes I wonder if any intervention is actually beneficial to women (men) in violent relationships, I wonder if it is just the luck of the draw whether you get out alive. No chip on my shoulder. Not at all! xxx Edited 25 Nov 10, 9:11 PM by Ghedes_Princess | ||
| 25 Nov 10, 9:11 PM Olokun UK(S), 5 yrs |
Well put @Princess_of_Subness I'm all for the protection of those who are really being abused. Nice to see everyones views on this  | ||
| 25 Nov 10, 9:15 PM gigglewiggle UK(DA), 4 yrs |
Wonder if it would be bad form to then ask to borrow their handcuffs.
Submission is a journey best not taken alone. | ||
| 25 Nov 10, 9:15 PM emark UK, 9 yrs |
But yes, you are right that the police could make a judgement for themselves, no matter what the so-called "victim" says. Sign the Consenting Adult Action Network's statement Edited 25 Nov 10, 9:16 PM by emark |
