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| Mon 11 Oct 10, 10:22 AM Jons_Amaranth UK(WS), 11 yrs   |
Misogynist or Dominant male. Every now and then I spot them out and about, the alleged Dominant or Master who really is a Misogynist. There is just something in the way they treat their subs/slaves and every other woman with this aura of disdain/disgust. Of course the standard response when challenged is the people who challenge are not real subs etc. So what do others think can a Misogynist deliver as a Master/Dominant? I am sure they could deliver as a sadist but have no time for them in Master or Dominant roles. But then what I want is not what others want. (posted on FL as well)
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| 11 Oct 10, 10:55 AM Top_Class UK(GU), 2 yrs |
The enquiry I'd make is whether this is to be a thread reviewing the behaviour of men rather one reviewing the nature of hatred in BDSM or in D/s. If the former then attack men with gay abandon (not quite the right phrase, but you know what I mean) or if the latter then here are the categories of hate to have a go at instead:
"Fork handles?" "No, not 'fork handles' ... four candles." | |||
| 11 Oct 10, 10:58 AM frederick_hende 20 mths |
As an interested outsider it often seems that Dominants of either gender often seem to hold their potential submissives in contempt, I find it hard to know how much of this is an act though. But yes I think a lot of them truly are misogynistic. | |||
| 11 Oct 10, 11:02 AM Jons_Amaranth UK(WS), 11 yrs |
It most certainly is not to have a go. There do seem to be people that are happy to receive this level of disdain, b I am not sure if this because they feel deserve no better or they like it. I love men and one much more than all the others. I do wonder if the category of men that do appear to be like feed a need for some? I would like others thoughts and have no wish to start flaming anyone what ever there demeanour is.
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| 11 Oct 10, 11:05 AM Jons_Amaranth UK(WS), 11 yrs |
Thank you My D does not hold me in contempt and I think that is obvious to anyone who knows us. My personal take is contempt is not a good thing in any relationship but in a BDSM relationship where we need high levels of trust especially if you like sado/ masochism it would worry me. However to a sadist who gets off on humiliation I can sort of see why a misogynist may fill a need.
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| 11 Oct 10, 11:08 AM Rigour UK, 21 mths |
I can see that to some subs that could be the most exciting and fulfilling experience possible but for me hatred of someone just due to gender is a bad starting place. Over the years I've learned quite a bit about the dynamics employed by abusive men, theoretical or academic not through personal experience I must add. Ironically I find that as I more and more embrace the Dom role as a part of me that I employ some of the classic behaviour patterns myself in play but firmly believe that it's conceptual and therefore fundamentally different. I'm still just taking little baby steps in all this but to me hatred doesn't have a place. | |||
| 11 Oct 10, 11:08 AM Ianneil UK(N), 5 yrs |
I would think you have to ask the individual sub/slave of the misogynist if they make a good Dominant. If you want to be treated with disdane and hate I would think they are ideal. Also there is an inference in the question "can a Misogynist deliver as a Master/Dominant?" that there is some form of BS or gold delivery standard to be obtained as a Dom. But then is there the equal opportunity misogynist aka "Grumpy Bastard".....just hates everybody. Edited 11 Oct 10, 11:10 AM by Ianneil | |||
| 11 Oct 10, 11:09 AM Lady_Lucan UK(L), 4 yrs |
I think this could be the key marker. Obviously you and I have no business in criticising how others treat their own property, but when this attitude spills outside of their relationship it's clear it's not under their full control, and therefore a long way from dominance.
'Ey la'/Hella! (Delete as appropriate.) | |||
| 11 Oct 10, 11:16 AM Jons_Amaranth UK(WS), 11 yrs |
Unless it was someone I was very close to I would not challenge how they treat them, I do ever forcefully challenge anyone who treats me like that.  I think your summary is good, when the behaviour does overspill it is not nice
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| 11 Oct 10, 11:16 AM Top_Class UK(GU), 2 yrs |
Well, the world of linguistics has prepared a word for that category of person, just in case they exist:
"Fork handles?" "No, not 'fork handles' ... four candles." | |||
| 11 Oct 10, 11:31 AM Ianneil UK(N), 5 yrs |
Oh believe me they do. Unfortunately most are not Radio 4 listeners and would not be aware of the word misanthropist. But I salute your valiant Sisyphus like efforts to preserve our linguistic standards. |
