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| Tue 28 Sep 10, 9:51 AM ThedaVamp UK, 6 yrs |
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-11418970 Vote for the repeal of the Extreme Pornography Laws | |
| 28 Sep 10, 10:38 AM Mistress_Serenity UK(BN), 5 yrs £  |
I received a letter from ACS Law & I do not download ANY films or games. So another innocent person served with papers! Serenity: Calm, calmness, composure, peace, peacefulness, quietness, quietude and tranquility. | |
| 28 Sep 10, 11:23 AM SirOpenSource UK(E), 6 yrs     |
This matter may not attract too much attention as flippant use of personal data becomes more common and the public take it in their stride but how would you feel if the post arrived and all your letters had been opened? The more that data is stored digitally by people who either are not expert at protecting it or treat its privacy casually the more all become open to cyber attack that could compromise [even if temporarily] your life. I quote: "It is a very sad day for all involved but we hope that through this unfortunate event the UK's internet service providors will think long and hard about who they give customer data to in future," Perhaps it is time the judiciary had better training in the dangers of releasing personal information to legal firms whose actions may result in unwarranted damage to a persons integrity. SOS The Titter group - for when you don't feel too serious. | |
| 28 Sep 10, 11:42 AM SubWhisperer UK, 5 yrs |
It is still unclear as to wether the law firm in question has actually signed up to the data protection act - and if they haven't - then Sky could be in deep trouble for providing them with that information, court order or not. Mistress_Serenity - I presume you know how to handle your situation ? (For those who are curious - your starter for 10 - http://www.slyck.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=66&t... ) What worries me is how many P2P files are tagged by the crown that contain clearly illegal "porn" that can subsequently be traced to an IP. We can download, decide it's dodgy and subsequently delete, but we're then already on record for "possession". I'm guessing they'll only persue those who have a "habit" for the seriously dodgy stuff, but this does go to show that even private firms can run traces on more than you'd think. Ever wondered who the devil comes to for ideas ? | |
| 28 Sep 10, 12:07 PM Rigour UK, 21 mths |
I've read quite a lot of similar posts on torrent forums and the advice generally boils down to if there's a case then you'll get a summons to court not a letter like this.
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| 28 Sep 10, 12:11 PM Doghouse_Reilly UK(MK), 6 yrs |
They are just a bunch of music industry bully-boys, I've known a few people they've sent their letters too and it's just empty threats designed to fuck with people. Chalk this one up as another righteous hackjob by the magnificent /b/astards of 4chan. Science isn't about why, it's about why not. You ask: Why is so much of our science dangerous? I say: Why not marry safe science if you love it so much. | |
| 28 Sep 10, 12:35 PM ladybabe2 UK(SK), 6 yrs |
What type of Adult films are they monitoring? If its child porn and stuff of that ilk its rather disturbing that they claim so many from one provider are downloading it... If its just adult porn then why monitor that and get the names from providers and not those who are downloading new releases? This really is a minefield if you have been accused and are innocent then what recourse do you have? Your privacy has been breached. If its just the run of the mill stuff be it porn or latest releases who has given them permission to act for the film industry, and the adult industry? I may be missing the object of this company but it seems a bit too intrusive... Don't make them a priority, when they only make you an option... | |
| 28 Sep 10, 1:06 PM Asshole_Magnet UK(EX), 22 mths |
Scott McNealy, former chairman of Sun ("the people who put the dot in dot com") famously said, well over a decade ago, "Privacy is gone, get used to it." He was essentially right, simply because 99.999% of people have not got clue #1 when it comes to data. The important factor here is not so much that data is stored in databases, but that those databases are being cross referenced and cross checked. It is for this reason that I flatly refuse to put any personally identifiable data, and this especially means pictures, onto any computers that are not either solely controlled by myself, or solely controlled by people who I know and trust (technically) personally. In cases such as these, which are Civil Law and not Criminal Law, even with the Court Order, the ISP is entitled to levy a charge for producing the data, and they do, typically the fee is £150. £150 per customer actually represents a sizeable profit source for the ISP. You also have to remember that all these different companies (lawyers, ISPs, FAST, RIAA, etc etc etc) are staffed by human beings, 99.999% of whom have not got clue #1 when it comes to data. One of the huge problems is there is no differentiation between "Good" data and "Bad" data, if it appears on a screen in front of a human they treat it like the word of God. For example, there is a company that makes a financial / accounts software package called MYOB, Mind Your Own Business. The trouble is, an awful lot of people use both MYOB and "mind your own business" when filling out web forms, the same goes for email addresses, one UK ISP had 360+ users type their email address as poop@poop.com in a web form survey form... thankfully nobody actually owned poop.com at the time. I myself owned a domain at one time that was identical except for the extension (com/net/org etc) to a ISP that provided services for the USAF, you would not believe the amount of genuinely secret military data that came my way, all sent "plain", everything from personnel records (names, home addres, SSN, Service tag, rank, deployment, age, sex, you name it) to mission data (flight plans, maps) to lists of materiel. Famously "Operation Ore" the paedophile sting targeted a large number of entirely innocent people who had their credit card details scammed at some point. The bottom line here is that if you are cavalier about your data, then your data is out there, and your only defence is in the numbers, hiding within the crowd and hoping your number doesn't come up. Just by way of example... Without even looking, I could name one profile on here, and all you have to do is click a mouse, and within 5 minutes you can amass sufficient evidence *written by this person themselves* to lead to arrest, criminal trial and guaranteed conviction, possibly even prison time. Either this person genuinely believes their acts are not illegal, or genuinely believes that in the great scheme of things they are too small to notice and in fact nobody is being hurt anyway. Which is exactly what people think when video of them doing 90 through a 20 is uploaded to youtube.... not necessarily by themselves.
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| 28 Sep 10, 1:35 PM SirOpenSource UK(E), 6 yrs |
As with all data processing operations the most fallible component of the system is the human one. SOS
The Titter group - for when you don't feel too serious. | |
| 28 Sep 10, 1:42 PM Anansie 3 yrs |
What does ACS Law expect?? You piss off the community at 4Chan and yes, they're going to f**k you over...Operation Payback
http://torrentfreak.com/acslaw-anti-piracy-law-f.... No amount of firewalls can really stop a virtual army of irate nerds ^_^ Edited 28 Sep 10, 1:43 PM by Anansie | |
| 28 Sep 10, 1:45 PM SubWhisperer UK, 5 yrs |
Yeah - "that persons" arrogance is unbelievable isn't it - oh well - sooner or later ........... Ever wondered who the devil comes to for ideas ? |
