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Mono / Open / Poly / Other (29)

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26 Aug 10, 11:40 AM
verte
UK(E), 8 yrs
Insolent wrote:
I thought post-modernists were beyond hating, and simply didn't care.

[apathetic cocking of head]

Depends which post-modernists you're thinking of.

For instance, Nietzschean-influenced Deleuzians do everything other than not care, I'd say...

Anyway, back to relationship categories... :)

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Edited 26 Aug 10, 11:41 AM by verte

26 Aug 10, 12:12 PM
Rhoobarb
UK(FK), 12 yrs
Degenerate wrote:
Monogamous people are people who love, and get intimate with only one person.

Degenerate wrote:

I get so frustrated with people constantly trying to reinvent the wheel and misusing language

Language is ever changing. "Gay" used to mean something other than it does now. One can be monogamous without loving the person one is with.

Dictionary.com wrote:

-gamy

a combining form with the meanings “marriage,” “union,” “fertilization, pollination,” of the kind specified by the initial element: exogamy; plastogamy; allogamy; also forming nouns corresponding to adjectives ending in -gamous: heterogamy.

Origin: comb. form repr. Gk -gamía act of marrying

So, historically, (originally) the suffix '-gamy' had to do with marriage, and not really to do with love.

Which is where I have problems with all of these definitions. Every definition is someone else's way of looking at it and, from inside, the relationship may appear otherwise.

I don't class myself as poly, although I do have other sexual partners and I have close friends who I'd say I do love, as much as I am able. I don't even really class myself as 'bi' although I have had sex with women and will probably continue to do so. I know my view of it is probably incorrect but it is MY view.

My primary partner is almost certainly always going to be a man (I say 'almost' as none of us can know what the future will hold) and any woman I do anything sexual with is a passing flirtation, a bit of fun and frolics or even someone I feel a great deal of affection for but they are highly unlikely to ever have the position of my primary partner.

I have no idea what this tells the OP about me or my view of me!

edited to remove an errant apostrophe.

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Edited 26 Aug 10, 12:13 PM by Rhoobarb

26 Aug 10, 12:15 PM
toothbrush
UK(LS), 3 yrs

The "isms" and "ists" can sometimes be useful academic vocabulary, but can often be restrictive artificial constructs that block out our real personalities.

In short, I'm with Verte on this one.

Edited 27 Aug 10, 12:30 AM by toothbrush

26 Aug 10, 2:00 PM
Aumentou
UK(S), 2 yrs
subette wrote:
Which in turn led me to wonder what perimetres people who do identify as open / poly operate within.

The rules of the relationship are the rules of the relationship. They need talking about regularly. It's not really possible to generalise more than that.

This, frankly, ought to go for mono people too. I was looking at OKCupid the other day, and there were quite a few questions that were basically about what was and was not allowed within a mono relationship. Silly things like "Is it okay to go to dinner with your ex?" and "Is it okay to hug other people of the sex(es) you're attracted to?". You can solve all the problems like that by saying "What's allowed is what we've agreed is allowed, what's not allowed is what we've agree is not allowed, and anything that's not on either list we'll discuss when it comes up."... and then having a long discussion.

The whole thing irritates me quite a lot, because it usually comes down to people trying to define what a "proper" relationship is, and telling other people that their relationships aren't right or aren't valid because they don't fit the metric.

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Anyway, to answer the actual question:

1) Poly. I live with my primary and no-one else.

2) I will hold no others before my primary, either in emotion or in time spent together or by any other metric. My primary will have a rough idea where I am and what I'm doing when I'm with others, and I will show up at home by an agreed time (and we have defaults if I don't agree anything specific). Within these bounds, I may do as I (and the other) choose.

The same rules apply the other way round too.

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Edited 26 Aug 10, 2:08 PM by Aumentou

26 Aug 10, 2:28 PM
Aumentou
UK(S), 2 yrs
Degenerate wrote:
Non monogamous people are those who involve with or love more than one person. This includes people who have affairs behind partner's back.

Funny, I would have defined that subgroup as "lying cheating weasels".

ETA:

Insolent wrote:
I thought post-modernists were beyond hating, and simply didn't care.

I though "post-modern" and hence "post-modernist" was an oxymoron.

Fascinating Aida. Look them up (NSFW). Thank me later.

Edited 26 Aug 10, 2:34 PM by Aumentou

26 Aug 10, 2:31 PM
Rhoobarb
UK(FK), 12 yrs
Aumentou wrote:

2) I will hold no others before my primary, either in emotion or in time spent together or by any other metric. My primary will have a rough idea where I am and what I'm doing when I'm with others, and I will show up at home by an agreed time (and we have defaults if I don't agree anything specific). Within these bounds, I may do as I (and the other) choose.

I like this definition. This is what I'm aiming for, for both of us, I think. It's pretty much what I do already.

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26 Aug 10, 4:13 PM
ThedaVamp
UK, 6 yrs
Aumentou wrote:
Degenerate wrote:
Non monogamous people are those who involve with or love more than one person. This includes people who have affairs behind partner's back.

Funny, I would have defined that subgroup as "lying cheating weasels".

Don't mislabel those weasels! They're much nicer than cheating cunts!

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30 Aug 10, 10:20 AM
Rapunzel*
UK(WC), 9 yrs

Littleboots wrote:
Degenerate wrote:
lots of good stuff

You could also add triad where three people are in a loving relationship with one another, often but not always exclusive to the other members of the triad. Not sure what you'd call it for four or more... fun? :-D

I think I'd call four people a 'menage'. It would be my ideal!

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30 Aug 10, 10:21 AM
Rapunzel*
UK(WC), 9 yrs

Rhoobarb wrote:
Aumentou wrote:

2) I will hold no others before my primary, either in emotion or in time spent together or by any other metric. My primary will have a rough idea where I am and what I'm doing when I'm with others, and I will show up at home by an agreed time (and we have defaults if I don't agree anything specific). Within these bounds, I may do as I (and the other) choose.

I like this definition. This is what I'm aiming for, for both of us, I think. It's pretty much what I do already.

I also like this - I think it describes me quite well!

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