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One in the tabloids today,''Death by hooker.'' (90)

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14 Aug 10, 7:09 PM
Lady_Anna_Bradford
UK(BD), 5 yrs

lincswitch wrote:
Lady_Anna_Bradford wrote:
steeev_slave wrote:
hussar123 wrote:
prick

very compassionate

I agree. The guy was a prick. He was selfish and cowardly with no thought or consideration for those poor woman who are going to traumatised for a very very long time, not to mention the legal crap they are going to be in for a very very long time.

It certainly isn't cowardly! You need real courage to go that way. My son hanged himself and I cannot imagine what dark place his mind was to do it. No it takes great courage, please think before engaging mouth.

I said he was a coward because he dragged two unsuspecting women into his plan. There was nothing courageous about what he did.

"If no sexual offence is being committed it seems very odd indeed that there should be an offence for having an image of something which was not an offence," Lord Wallace of Tankerness
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14 Aug 10, 7:12 PM
Lady_Anna_Bradford
UK(BD), 5 yrs

Mesmeric wrote:
chorleysubmale wrote:
Unfortunately i do have some 1st hand experience of mental illness (both in myself and others). Someone having a mental health crisis - whether they are diagnosed or not - can be capable of almost anything.

To say "well they were on-the-ball enough to do x or y" doesn't mean much. I knew a very bright, senior doctor with a loving wife and family (incl young children). He functioned at work normally and throughout his day to day life. One day he came to work as normal, signed out some anaesthetic drugs, left, drove a distance, cannulated himself and killed himself in his car with the carefully selected drugs.

There was no scandal, no affairs, no sudden emotional trauma or dramatic event, and no-one even knew he was ill until after the fact.

I've rambled on, but the point I'm trying to make is that to tar all mentals (not a PC term but as I'm one I think I can use it safely!) with the same brush is foolish.

The man at the centre of these tragic events may have been ill, maybe guilt ridden and feeling worthless, or maybe just a kinky bastard who got accidentally killed. I just hope that all those touched by his death can somehow get through it in one piece.

Cannulate...curious new word. Dictionary not particularly helpful in this context. Could I ask you to explain, please?

You cannulate when you put a cannula needle into a vein, then remove the needle leaving just the tube and the screw attachment. I'm guessing he used the cannula to inject the drugs into his blood stream. .

"If no sexual offence is being committed it seems very odd indeed that there should be an offence for having an image of something which was not an offence," Lord Wallace of Tankerness
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14 Aug 10, 7:16 PM
Fish_Stew
UK(M), 2 yrs
Why exactly should he feel compassion for a twat who is married with a couple of kids who decieved a couple of people to unwittingly assist his fucked up death, prick is a comparitively tame description!

FS

steeev_slave wrote:
hussar123 wrote:
prick

very compassionate

14 Aug 10, 7:47 PM
bossy_bitch
UK, 3 yrs
I did, fleetingly, wonder, if getting the escorts involved was a ploy to increase the chance of getting life/mortgage insurance policy payouts. There might possibly be more likelihood with a Coroner's Verdict of Death by Misadventure, than one of Suicide.

"Middle age is when you're old enough to know better but still young enough to do it”

14 Aug 10, 8:06 PM
emenac
UK(WV), 11 yrs

The report mentioned that the girls found him crying, hence he was most likely in a disturbed and emotional state. It almost beggers belief that they would have taken his money, hurled a few insults and then walk away leaving him there in a precarious position - physically and mentally - with a noose around his neck. To me that smacks of negligence and a lack of duty of care shown by the women given the fact that he was a client.

Lady_Anna_Bradford wrote:
steeev_slave wrote:
hussar123 wrote:
prick

very compassionate

I agree. The guy was a prick. He was selfish and cowardly with no thought or consideration for those poor woman who are going to traumatised for a very very long time, not to mention the legal crap they are going to be in for a very very long time.

14 Aug 10, 8:41 PM
Fish_Stew
UK(M), 2 yrs
what a load of excusing bollox some people come up with for people who can't take responsibility of their own life. It IS the cowards way out - a brave person would face up to their responsibilities and DEAL with them. It's a kind of natural selection - those that can't deal with real life die, those that can, in the face of adversity (and losing your job really isn't that adverse) fucking buckle down and sort it out. He was a total spineless fuckwit.

Not to mention the fact that he used prostitutes previously and cheated on his family, the world is a better place without him.

FS

emenac wrote:
The report mentioned that the girls found him crying, hence he was most likely in a disturbed and emotional state. It almost beggers belief that they would have taken his money, hurled a few insults and then walk away leaving him there in a precarious position - physically and mentally - with a noose around his neck. To me that smacks of negligence and a lack of duty of care shown by the women given the fact that he was a client.

Lady_Anna_Bradford wrote:
steeev_slave wrote:
hussar123 wrote:
prick

very compassionate

I agree. The guy was a prick. He was selfish and cowardly with no thought or consideration for those poor woman who are going to traumatised for a very very long time, not to mention the legal crap they are going to be in for a very very long time.

14 Aug 10, 8:49 PM
Ishmael
UK(SE), 12 yrs
lil_babybeth wrote:
Oh fucking heck, and it would be the pestulent perverted nonpaper that found it eh? The Sun is the world's biggest pile of shit anyone ever saw and it seems they done it again.

The article reads as hokey as hell to me. For a start I can't see any sex workers that style themselves 'escorts' tooling out to play SM in the woods for only £60 each; I know we've had a recession, but that's just silly, even before the agency takes its cut.

Before we all pitch in with opinion and speculation on the whys and wherefores, and on how we rate the strength of character of a suicide etcetera, it might be prudent to recall that The Sun is a violently prejudiced newspaper and the key British arm of a provenly pernicious and vindictive media empire.

So far the only account of this most tragic business is that told by a newspaper whose word cannot in any way be trusted, and one with a history of being anti SM; it is not unreasonable to assume that The Sun may be larding its account with some *lies*.

I'm celebrating my birthday at the Barnet Bastille from 6pm on Sunday 1st August, and I'd be delighted if you could join me.

14 Aug 10, 9:02 PM
night_porter
UK(G), 4 yrs

Ishmael wrote:

So far the only account of this most tragic business is that told by a newspaper whose word cannot in any way be trusted, and one with a history of being anti SM; it is not unreasonable to assume that The Sun may be larding its account with some *lies*.

It's in the Mail, too:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1303018/...

Is the Mail anti-SM, too? Genuinely not a loaded question, I'm interested as I don't read it that much.

Reason I ask is that it's sister publication, The Metro, is continually praised on these very boards for its pro-bdsm stories.

The poon won't come flocking if you sit and do nothing.

14 Aug 10, 9:16 PM
SirOpenSource
UK(E), 6 yrs


Fish_Stew wrote:
what a load of excusing bollox some people come up with for people who can't take responsibility of their own life. It IS the cowards way out - a brave person would face up to their responsibilities and DEAL with them. It's a kind of natural selection - those that can't deal with real life die, those that can, in the face of adversity (and losing your job really isn't that adverse) fucking buckle down and sort it out. He was a total spineless fuckwit.

Not to mention the fact that he used prostitutes previously and cheated on his family, the world is a better place without him.

FS

Before you start defaming people who have recently died yet are most likely still loved by their family perhaps it is wise to think a little deeper.

The story was reported by primarily [and arguably] the most revolting publication to call itself a newspaper that has a habit of writing stories to play devils advocate. None of us know the true facts of this case and most likely the full truth behind it may never fully emerge. I have worked with people who have been suicidal and those who truly have this desire are unstoppable. The desire is so strong all else in the mind is muffled.

Perhaps when more is known of the case from a more reliable source than something more suited to wrap ones fish 'n chips in it may be more appropriate to comment.

Regards

SOS

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Edited 14 Aug 10, 9:17 PM by SirOpenSource

14 Aug 10, 9:28 PM
spirifer
UK, 6 yrs
Elysium wrote:
Not a bad way to go. seems even the high flyers in the banking industry are as fucked up as all hell.

Who would have thought?

Unless high flying bankers have suddenly started living in distinctly unimpressive semis in the suburbs, there's something very fishy about this story.

ETA - I see someone has already commented on the rather small house.

Ah semen. What is it about that ridiculous white secretion that pulls down the corners of an Englishman's mouth?
The state has no business in the bedrooms of the nation - Pierre Trudeau
A denizen of a right little, tight little island.

Edited 14 Aug 10, 9:30 PM by spirifer

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