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Should Pro-Dommes .... be (60)

This post is on the Pro-Mistresses etc web board (moved from Other BDSM).

Fri 30 Jul 10, 12:04 AM
varietyclub
22 mths
Prosecuted under the 'Trades desciption act when they'

Advertise services and cannot provide you with relevant documentation of being a registered company nor have a VAT number to allow a return claim for leisure activities?

If you visit one of these pro-dommes who is not a registered company for tax purposes, nor is VAT registered, then you may have no way of a common law recompense for any injury sustained during said activities.

So be careful out there when your playing

what say you ?

30 Jul 10, 12:10 AM
wilrus
UK(LL), 23 mths

Well you wouuld be in no different a situation really than had you been to see an unpaid domme.
30 Jul 10, 12:11 AM
Lucius_Sulla
UK(E), 2 yrs

meh meh meh mehhhhhhhhhh!
30 Jul 10, 12:17 AM
PapaSmurf
UK(CF), 22 mths
There's no obligation for any individual running a business to be a limited company. They can operate as a sole trader if they prefer.

There's also no obligation for them to be VAT registered if their turnover is below the VAT threshold (£57k/year last time I checked).

[Edited to add:}

Also, unless they are materially misrepresenting the nature of services offered the Trade Descriptions Act does not apply.

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"Cuius testiculos habes, habeas cardia et cerebellum."

Edited 30 Jul 10, 12:18 AM by PapaSmurf

30 Jul 10, 12:21 AM
varietyclub
22 mths
papa smurff, as always your a very good resource and as the thread develops i will come back to your initial take on the thread, thank you
30 Jul 10, 12:27 AM
bohnanza
UK(FK), 12 yrs

varietyclub wrote:
If you visit one of these pro-dommes who is not a registered company for tax purposes, nor is VAT registered, then you may have no way of a common law recompense for any injury sustained during said activities.

That is of course completely wrong. As said above by, PapaSMurf, you can be a sole trader or a partnership and be below the VAT registration threshold.

Liability for injury has nothing to do with someone's trading status, it has everything to do with a Duty of Care. You would start a court action based on their lack of Duty of Care, rather than their VAT number.

Why don't cash machines have a Gamble button?
Why isn't there an age of consent for religion?

30 Jul 10, 12:29 AM
varietyclub
22 mths
As with pappasmurf, bohnanza, as the thread develops i will post my thoughts, cheers for your post

Edited 30 Jul 10, 12:32 AM by varietyclub

30 Jul 10, 12:34 AM
Sorceror
UK(HU), 9 yrs
fizzylittletiger wrote:
PapaSmurf wrote:
There's no obligation for any individual running a business to be a limited company. They can operate as a sole trader if they prefer.

There's also no obligation for them to be VAT registered if their turnover is below the VAT threshold (£57k/year last time I checked).

[snip]

Correct.... No obligation and NO NEED

Why would anyone think that the average Pro-Domme even earned enough money to register as LTD or for VAT?

Fizzy

VAT liability is incurred as a result of gross income not net. At an average charge of £150 per hour most Pro Dommes will become liable to pay VAT if they work 380 or more hours a year. That equates to just over seven hours a week.

S.x.

30 Jul 10, 12:45 AM
Lord_Gobbimort
6 yrs
As we are on to kinky accounting ii have a question... If a Pro-Dom is paying vat, can they clame vat back on equipment and expences, like fuel and van hire for kidnap scenes?

Also if a sub buys gifts for a pro-Dom, can they or the Dom clame the vat back?

ETA goss this is fun, like a kinky verson of you and yours on radio 4

commitment is like ham and eggs. the chicken makes a contribution, the pig makes a commitment.

Edited 30 Jul 10, 12:46 AM by Lord_Gobbimort

30 Jul 10, 12:50 AM
Phrixus
UK(ST), 5 yrs
There is no room for development in this thread as far as I see.

You've asked if people should be prosecuted under the trade descriptions act for satisfying the criteria of a perfectly legitimate sole trader. Also like everyone else is saying, personal liability has nothing to do with VAT numbers.

If I try and extrapolate your original post out a bit, are you concerned that you wont be able to bring legal action against Dommes if they cause injury?

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30 Jul 10, 12:52 AM
bohnanza
UK(FK), 12 yrs

Gobby_Whore wrote:
As we are on to kinky accounting ii have a question... If a Pro-Dom is paying vat, can they clame vat back on equipment and expences, like fuel and van hire for kidnap scenes?

Yes.

Gobby_Whore wrote:
Also if a sub buys gifts for a pro-Dom, can they or the Dom clame the vat back?

No. They would be classed as benefits in kind and taxed accordingly.

Why don't cash machines have a Gamble button?
Why isn't there an age of consent for religion?

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