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BDSM Collaring for Television (48)

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30 Jul 10, 8:36 PM
Peccavi
4 yrs
Clockworkknight wrote:
Out off interest are itv willing to foot the bill for the wedding/collaring - just with the average wedding costing £16 000 they might get a few more takers if they were willing to cover the people involved's expenses.

Part of the fun of the programme seems to be the other brides turning their noses up at what has been laid on - from the dress, the venue, the food ....

30 Jul 10, 11:07 PM
shelbyville
UK(CA), 6 yrs
Oh don't get me wrong i would take lottery winning media over this kind every time, but i still would not go public, i would simply do what i love most and sod of traveling abroad for a long, long time.

Purvection wrote:
shelbyville wrote:
See i don't understand the appeal of being on TV in any context, i would hate to be famous and the single most puzzling thing is those people that win the Lottery then go on the TV and advertise it to the world. Papers suck too, i hate the media. Anyone who goes on this is setting themselves up for a fall in my humble opinion.

I work in the media and the main reason lottery winners out themselves in the press is because in the long term it gets them off their back.

If you win a big sum, it's extremely difficult to conceal it. If you don't go public, the lottery press office will have already revealed the location of the winner after the draw is announced. Neighbours will talk when they suddenly see a flash new car parked outside. The press know a jackpot winner lives in Bognor so they turn up in packs to start sniffing around looking for any signs of someone who's suddenly come into money. They'll go around all the off-licences for example asking if anyone's made a huge champagne order, or car showrooms.

It's much better to do a quick photocall for the tabloids - they get a feel-good story and they don't bother you again. It's worth remembering that the lottery provides advice as soon as they confirm the win, explaining the consequences of going public or not going public. Both have drawbacks.

Regarding this reality show, I wouldn't. I don't also get why people want to do such shows and the consequences can be far more long-term and damaging that a lottery winner doing a press call.

For one thing, with TV once you've signed the contract your life really is not your own anymore. There will be tons of small print that many won't understand - celebrities have lawyers to go through the clauses and strike stuff. Most members of the public won't have a clue what they are getting into. And whatever the producers tell you to expect, once the cameras start rolling you have no control. It can be edited to show you in different ways, most of which may well not be flattering. And of course if the footage shows you in a bad light, the tabloids will move in and start digging dirt.

I've not seen this particular show but from reading the other comments it sounds as grim as Big Brother or whatever.

A lottery win press call, which is carefully controlled and will last for just 10 or 15 minutes is infinitely preferable.

1 Aug 10, 2:37 AM
Tara_Red
UK(B), 5 yrs
£
~NotTheOne wrote:
Oh no, not again! In your 7 day waiting period could you not have done some research and seen this mentioned at least twice before in recent memory?

If this is the level of research the production is investing in I doubt you will get many takers.

Daniel from ITV posted all the details about the show with added extras trying to allay fears on production etc but admin have closed the thread and routed it here.

NotTheOne asks that could Daniel have not done some research in the 7 days but you can see clearly that he has by mentioning the concerns that readers on here had.

Daniel phoned me and asked me if I'd like to take part or new of anyone and I explained why he would find it hard and directed him to this website and thread to read all the concerns, hence him posting himself, so yes he is far more aware of the scene he is looking to peruse and very much more aware of all the concerns the people in this scene have.

Sounded a lovely yet slightly naive young man but def not a wind up merchant or fake journo, I enjoyed telling him about that afternoon's spanking! He's also phoned a few of the other pro sub/spankee girls so getting a bit more of a feel for the scene in general and what goes on.

They nay never get a taker for it but I'll be watching avidly if they do!

Pro submissive & switch with great dungeon & LOTS of toys!

3 Aug 10, 11:32 PM
Miss_serena
4 yrs
yes Daniel called me too !! about 3 weeks ago x

'In love'

4 Aug 10, 11:20 AM
Jane_Fae
UK(W), 3 yrs
Purvection wrote:
shelbyville wrote:
See i don't understand the appeal of being on TV in any context, i would hate to be famous and the single most puzzling thing is those people that win the Lottery then go on the TV and advertise it to the world. Papers suck too, i hate the media. Anyone who goes on this is setting themselves up for a fall in my humble opinion.

I work in the media and the main reason lottery winners out themselves in the press is because in the long term it gets them off their back.

If you win a big sum, it's extremely difficult to conceal it. If you don't go public, the lottery press office will have already revealed the location of the winner after the draw is announced. Neighbours will talk when they suddenly see a flash new car parked outside. The press know a jackpot winner lives in Bognor so they turn up in packs to start sniffing around looking for any signs of someone who's suddenly come into money. They'll go around all the off-licences for example asking if anyone's made a huge champagne order, or car showrooms.

It's much better to do a quick photocall for the tabloids - they get a feel-good story and they don't bother you again. It's worth remembering that the lottery provides advice as soon as they confirm the win, explaining the consequences of going public or not going public. Both have drawbacks.

Regarding this reality show, I wouldn't. I don't also get why people want to do such shows and the consequences can be far more long-term and damaging that a lottery winner doing a press call.

For one thing, with TV once you've signed the contract your life really is not your own anymore. There will be tons of small print that many won't understand - celebrities have lawyers to go through the clauses and strike stuff. Most members of the public won't have a clue what they are getting into. And whatever the producers tell you to expect, once the cameras start rolling you have no control. It can be edited to show you in different ways, most of which may well not be flattering. And of course if the footage shows you in a bad light, the tabloids will move in and start digging dirt.

I've not seen this particular show but from reading the other comments it sounds as grim as Big Brother or whatever.

A lottery win press call, which is carefully controlled and will last for just 10 or 15 minutes is infinitely preferable.

Guess i'd not 100% agree with the above...but then, you are absolutely right in that people need to know what they are getting themselves into.

As someone who has made their transition fairly public, i am aware of both the up and downside of press attention. That said, i am in the media eye already: i had several editors asking me to write up my experience for them; and it struck me as daft if i, who write for a living, were to see myself written about ANYWAY - and not get any payment for that.

So i picked a few places where i felt i had enough copy control not to be completely shafted and went with it.

That said, both you and I, purvection, are aware of how the media work and maybe are better placed to watch out for danger signs.

In respect of this programme, i'd definitely say it is not for anyone. You are "outing" yourself irrevocably and if your friends, neighbours, etc. don't know of your lifestyle, its a pretty dramatic way to do so. If you work in any one of a series of public jobs - teacher, nurse, social worker, lawyer, etc. - it is possibly career death, possibly a sackable offence. (It shouldn't be, but the risk is there).

So that narrows the field.

However - and there is a however - i don't think this programme has any intention of stitching up its participants. It has all the bad - and good - features of an episode of Big Brother or Come Dine with Me. If you are the sort of person who hates those shows, this isn't for you.

If, on t'other hand, you could quite happily hack that level of public exposure, then why not. You get an interesting memento of your wedding day, plus a one in four chance of walking off with a £10,000 prize.

Irrespective of that, manage the subsequent publicity, and you could add a couple of thou more.

If you're private, don't wish to be outed, etc., etc., don't touch this with a bargepole. If you frankly couldn't care and have a mildly exhibitionist streak, go for it.

And if my advice persuades you, i'll make my bid for a 10% cut of the winnings now. :)

Jane xx

Personal: http://janefae.wordpress.com
Political: http://sexualitymatters.wordpress.com

6 Aug 10, 5:21 PM
Sirebel
UK, 5 yrs


You can have 100% of my winnings because I can't see the other three giving the prize to the wierdos. I would love to have a collaring ceremony like this but I don't think they'd be able to broadcast my version :-D

No man is good enough to govern another man without that other's consent. Abraham Lincoln

6 Aug 10, 11:53 PM
KinkyRoly
UK(OX), 3 yrs

The advice given by others is spot-on. I too have worked in the television business, in my case for 40 years.

The big lie that is told more than any other is that if you don't like something, it will be cut out. No it won't. It will become the pivotal point of the story that is told.

A researcher will always try to reassure you that you are in control and that if you don't like what's happening, it won't be used. In reality you will be encouraged to do whatever the director has decided will make a good story, irrespective of how inappropriate that might be.

Your views will not be taken into account during the edit. If they shoot something and like it, it will be used. You will not be given the opportunity to sit in during the edit, nor to veto any scenes. The only way you can prevent them using something you don't like is to not film things that you don't like. Unfortunately people are too willing to please and directors are skilled at taking advantage of people's good nature.

If being interviewed, say what needs to be said and then shut up. It's a favourite trick for the interviewer to say nothing, but gesture that he/she wants to hear more. Some people will then say things that they subsequently regret saying.

8 Aug 10, 6:28 PM
Redhead777
CH, 4 yrs
This is business and a property is being created for sale.

“Oh that's an interesting proposition. Please send a copy of your script-plan and prospective rights-sales together with a sample contract to my lawyer. I we do reach agreement; any discussions will be exclusively per contract and be only on the basis of my final script, crew and total edit approval. Any breach of contract by you will be penalized by no less than $1m.”

Simple.

A couple of my colleagues have sold wedding publicity rights on this basis for the benefit of charity. The contract specifies who can be in shot, what dialog can be recorded and reproduced, how much and what parts of their bodies may be filmed and for how long. Good direction scripts do that.

If the production company is not willing to proceed on that kind of professional business basis, they're only worth listening to by those who passively want to allow themselves to manipulated.

R

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