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BDSM theory group? (18)

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verte
Posted by verte on Thu 22 Jul 10, 5:06 PM to verte's blog.

It's come to my attention that there are a bunch of us on this site who are interested in researching kink and BDSM, and who also have an interest in critical theory.

Would there be sufficient interest to set up a group dedicated to straddling BDSM experience and theory? As many of my pals know, it's a source of frustration to me that there is often a fractious relationship between people who do BDSM and people who write about it. Nope, no one article or book is going to perfectly summarise your BDSM relationship. It'd be pretty weird, frankly, if it did. I've never read anything that rings completely true or that I don't find in some way problematic. But the point is to at least try, eh?

I do understand that a lot of people (my Thomasson included) find theory-making quite isolating because of the kinds of language tropes used and the endless cross-referencing, but I'd quite like to create a place where you can post something without some patronising fart saying "Can't you say that in E-N-G-L-I-S-H?" or similar every time.

I'd like to create a space where people can post ideas about theory and practice, questions they come across in their work, quotes they might stumble upon (and no, I don't mean that Anais Nin one), articles and books that might be of interest, related events, calls for papers, etc etc.

There's a group a bit like this on Fetlife that's very active indeed, so I wonder if there's sufficient interest for something UK-based?

Edited Thu 22 Jul 10, 5:10 PM by verte

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22 Jul 10, 6:44 PM
coinoperatedgirl
UK(EH), 4 yrs
I'm an undergrad sociology and anthropology student and my main areas of interest are in gender and sexuality. I'd be really interested in something like this -- not entirely sure how useful my contributions would be, but it definitely appeals :-)

I'm not on Fetlife so I haven't had any experience of the group on there, but I might sign-up and go and have a wee look-see.

"It's not that I don't like people. It's just that when I'm in the company of others - even my nearest and dearest - there always comes a moment when I'd rather be reading a book."

22 Jul 10, 6:59 PM
Doghouse_Reilly
UK(MK), 6 yrs

I think it's a good idea but only if there is some degree of elitism towards the peasants. What's the point of having an intelligentsia if you can't patronise the great unwashed?

At the risk of sounding like a bit of a Negative Nietzsche though, is there enough assorted think power to be had on IC for such an enterprise? Does seem like most conversations around here, even those that start with the loftiest intentions, tend to turn a bit special by the end of page one. And by special I don't mean unique and fascinating. I mean the bad kind of special. The kind that eats crayons.

Still it would be nice to read something here a little more erudite than 'BOOBS MAKE ME HORNEH LOL' or 'OMG FAT CHICKS LOL'

Science isn't about why, it's about why not. You ask: Why is so much of our science dangerous? I say: Why not marry safe science if you love it so much.

22 Jul 10, 7:32 PM
Northern_Phoenix
UK, 8 yrs
I think it's certainly a good idea, and although it's obviously not something that would appeal to everyone, I think there'd be enough interest for something like this to take off.

As you rightly pointed out, there's unlikely to ever be a theory that explains everything about the whole BDSM world, or that even covers a little bit of it that sits right with everyone, but if anything that comes out of this is helpful to even one person in better understanding their own thing somehow, then in my opinion it's worthwhile.

Phoenix

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He would jump into fire if she thought he should.
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22 Jul 10, 7:44 PM
Dr_49ish
UK(M), 23 mths
I read a lot of health-related sociology and psychology as part of my RL job. Not sure how much I would be able to contribute to the conversation on BDSM theory, but I would certainly be an avid reader. And I have a dictionary where I could look up the big words!

D

22 Jul 10, 8:08 PM
Manson
UK(M), 2 yrs

As someone about to embark on a Master's in Counselling and Psychotherapy, and a bit of an intellectual sod at times, and very interested in what makes me and others tick, etc, would be interested :-D

As soon as you trust yourself, you will know how to live. - Goethe.

22 Jul 10, 8:17 PM
Betony
UK, 7 yrs
I'd be interested too. Might not have the time to

contribute much, but I'd always read.

Aim high and you won't shoot your foot off. Phyllis Diller

22 Jul 10, 9:47 PM
SuzannaRaine
UK(NG), 4 yrs

This is something I would find interesting.

It sounds a bit like what happens occasionally on poly list.

bara 'adam 'et 'elohim m'apher

22 Jul 10, 11:10 PM
pepperpants
UK, 3 yrs
I would hope so. I appreciated your recent contribution to the CNC discussion--
23 Jul 10, 1:34 AM
maya_lila
UK(SE), 5 yrs
Doghouse_Reilly wrote:
And by special I don't mean unique and fascinating. I mean the bad kind of special. The kind that eats crayons.

Still it would be nice to read something here a little more erudite than 'BOOBS MAKE ME HORNEH LOL' or 'OMG FAT CHICKS LOL'

:-D

Sniggering aside, OP, I like the sound of this potential new group.

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"How many cares one loses when one decides not to be something but to be someone" ~ Coco Chanel
'The more I read, the more I meditate; and the more I acquire the more certain I am that I know nothing.' Voltaire

Edited 23 Jul 10, 1:35 AM by maya_lila

23 Jul 10, 7:45 AM
Ama_Sidero
UK(GU), 7 yrs


I quit reading when I saw "Nietzche".. Are we tables, because we exist? I forced myself to read him - for weeks then didn't read the last page. Just on principle.

No thanks.

If it is more history based and discussing the theory, etc. then I'm interested. But if it turns Nietsche-like, I doubt it.

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