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| 19 Jul 10, 6:17 PM Ishmael UK(SE), 12 yrs  |
The Firm has never operated a different pricing policy for men and women, though I think we did offer a modest discount for couples for a club that we did called 'Strict'. I've always thought that to charge men more is fundamentally divisive, and that it tells men that they are less worthy than women, while at the same time it effectively turns women into part of the product, while not actually paying them money for it. But I don't criticise any promoter that does employ this sort of policy, because running an SM club is not easy, and I think that at the end of the day, one has to be free (within reason) to take one's own decisions, and to deal with problems in one's own way; the SM Club Scene is not a facility supplied as a public right, it's a collection of private enterprises, often running on tight budgets, and if a promoter decides to stop running his/her club, there is no law to make him/her continue. ETA I think it is really a case of 'let the buyer beware'; 'Men £20, Women £5' may imply certain qualities about the event in question, and if you are prepared to put up with that, all well and good, if not, I'd advise you to vote with your feet rather than sue. I think there's enough litigation in the world as it is, and it doesn't encourage other promoters to keep going. I'm celebrating my birthday on the afternoon and evening of Sunday 1st August, and I'd be delighted if you could join me. Edited 19 Jul 10, 6:22 PM by Ishmael | ||||
| 19 Jul 10, 6:41 PM Diablos_patience UK, 6 yrs |
Regardless of the fact it does discriminate i really dont think that it is done with the intention of making males less worthy than females.
The bottom line is that most females who attend with a male submissive dont pay entry anyway as the male submissive does, so if we twist it slightly it could be seen as a way of saving the male sub a few quid... I believe the motivation behind the difference in pricing is a way to try and entice more females through the door... it can be incredibly difficult geting females to attend events so by offering free or a reduced entry fee it is thought that may entice more in... which is why it is prodominantly the swinging venues that opperate this type of charging policy... the ladies own the goodies without them there aint no sex... without the chance of sex there isnt an event.
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| 19 Jul 10, 6:45 PM MadameCaramel  UK(E), 5 yrs £   |
Hear hear..... at least someone who understands xx
http://madamecaramel.c4slive.com http://www.madamecaramel.org.uk Edited 19 Jul 10, 6:50 PM by MadameCaramel | ||||
| 19 Jul 10, 6:54 PM Ishmael UK(SE), 12 yrs |
The intention notwithstanding; if a man has to spend more to get in that either implies tht he is wanted less than women, or that he is entitled to expect more than women.
That's certainly true.
It's a big 'may'; the reduced door price can make some women feel as if they are expected to be part of the show, and they may not be comfortable with that. Furthermore, £10 off the door price is actually quite a paltry inducement; I think the whole thing is a very dodgy road to go down.
I'm celebrating my birthday on the afternoon and evening of Sunday 1st August, and I'd be delighted if you could join me. | ||||
| 19 Jul 10, 6:56 PM littlenic 5 yrs |
Well, personally I think pricing differentials are appalling, and if I had my way the couples' discount would be gone too. Musing on this last night though, the only club I've ever been to where I noticed a gender imbalance was, strangely enough, Pedestal, the only club I've been to with that sort of pricing policy in place. I don't recall feeling overwhelmed as a gender at Hades, or Dark, or Antichrist, or Crimson, or ST... all of which were/are, as far as I'm aware, charging men and women the same. Funny, huh? | ||||
| 19 Jul 10, 6:56 PM go_dutch UK(AL), 4 yrs  |
i have NEVER been to an event that has had a problem with there not being enough women/being too many men. i have also never been to an event that charges prices differently depending on if you have a cock or not. there might just be a correlation... Edinburgh Fringe Munch 15/08/10 | ||||
| 19 Jul 10, 6:56 PM Ishmael UK(SE), 12 yrs |
Ah ha; I can assure you that after the best part of a quarter century in this business, the dynamics of box office policy are in no way a closed book to me.
I'm celebrating my birthday on the afternoon and evening of Sunday 1st August, and I'd be delighted if you could join me. | ||||
| 19 Jul 10, 7:01 PM a_gloomy_kitty UK(SS), 3 yrs |
yes you do...its just i paid :P
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| 19 Jul 10, 7:03 PM mornington_crescent UK(CB), 3 yrs |
I think that equal pricing actually protects women. Differential pricing suggests that men are the consumers and women are the products. No, thanks! Also, I understood Pedestal to have equal pricing now: http://www.clubpedestal.com/ticket.html I hope this is the case, as I was intending to go to the upcoming one! | ||||
| 19 Jul 10, 7:04 PM doulos UK(SW), 7 yrs |
Wow, you've discovered marginal costs. Next thing you will be in favour of free markets
I think people should be allowed to setup whatever club they want, with the house rules of their choice, charge whatever price and on any grounds they choose whatsoever. They could charge entrance by the lb if they wanted The result would be loads of different clubs catering for all interests, and at various price ranges. "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." H. L. Mencken |
