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| 30 Jul 10, 12:30 AM pinkylucy UK(M), 9 yrs      |
This thread makes me think of Laura Antoniou's 'Marketplace' series. Obviously it is fiction, but one of the things addressed is the financial situation for slaves. In the Marketplace when slaves are sold a portion of their sale price goes into a bank account which can be accessed at the end of their contract should they choose to leave slavery. The idea is that this money amounts to a reasonable annual wage so that nobody is left financially destitute. If I remember correctly then people have some input into the minimum level this will be before they enter training. Clearly, this leaves the purchase of slaves in the hands of the super-rich. I can still see possibilities for this in real life though. In the Marketplace, potential slaves must abandon property, jobs, family and friends. Living in the real world I can imagine it could be possible to negotiate a situation where by basic bills and expenses were handled by a slave owner in the instance of complete contractual slavery. I think for the most part people don't tend to make this kind of commitment unless they decide to live together and then the financial situation would be up to the Dominant to choose. I can imagine situations though where perhaps the relationship is less romantic and more D/s focused where by a trial period or limited period of complete consensual slavery maybe embarked on where by the slave still needed to be able to return to their former life and therefore have bills/rent etc paid. ETA: I'm not saying that the Dominant *should* be responsible for this, just that it is a situation that could be considered if the desired slave was not financially able to enter the period of slavery without financial assistance. "Don't Dream It - Be It" - The Rocky Horror Show 1973 Edited 30 Jul 10, 12:32 AM by pinkylucy | |||
| 30 Jul 10, 1:02 AM HalloweenWhite UK(TF), 7 yrs     |
Lmao. | |||
| 30 Jul 10, 4:33 AM devotedp UK(M), 22 mths |
When I was in America, I served two delightful ladies. My services were unpaid, and believe me I worked very hard for them. I didn't mind at all. I was lucky enough to earn some money working in one of their business's as well, but there was a clear distinction between what was employment and what was service. I would jump at the chance to serve this way again. I certainly wouldn't expect someone that I called my "owner" to pay me for serving them. | |||
| 30 Jul 10, 9:00 PM Factory_slave UK(N), 6 yrs |
Gosh. If you did so full time for several months, you're a better sub than I and anyone else reading this. If, as I suspect, your services extended to a couple of hours now and then, you're comparing apples with elephants.
Yes. I did. I said, “Please could I have some money to cover my expenses”. Should I have said it another way? I'm afraid I don't understand your point.
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| 30 Jul 10, 9:13 PM Felixthecat  UK(CM), 23 mths |
From what you describe to be very blunt, sounds like their taking the piss and are using your kink for just strait forward profit and not really considering your part as play in any way shape or form. but i could be wrong don't know the full interactions between you. if you do get paid then your in a way becoming a Pro slave so its down to you. But on lighter note i have sort of payed, as one bit of role play with and ex used to include me treating her as a whore so i would stuff a £50 note in her mouth at the end of the night when she went home, she would spend it on me the next day or so anyway but it was the humiliation bit that was fun. Stercus accidit | |||
| 30 Jul 10, 9:25 PM Factory_slave UK(N), 6 yrs |
That's always been the case. No argument there. As said above, I've now declined the offer. The lack of financial assistance was a minor factor, but I think the real conclusion here is that full-time “service” is neither practical nor realistic, despite the claims people may make.
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| 30 Jul 10, 9:36 PM SubAdam63 UK(LE), 8 yrs |
Having just avoided being fleeced by a so called Domme Female who really just wanted to be 'treated' (read please take me shopping and spend at least £150 + buy me an expensive lunch , and make it a regular thing), its just reconfirmed that money shouldnt change hands for this kind of thing - it just taints everything and causes resentment. In my example there was no mention of it to start with but as soon as mention was made of meeting up there was the gradual 'you can take me shopping' then the 'you can do my shopping' then the 'you can pay, thats your place'.....I saw it coming straight away and immediately called it a day.... I hate fucking parasites | |||
| 30 Jul 10, 9:49 PM dominate4u2 UK(M), 2 yrs |
Slaves are property, posessions....,meat. They should clear your bills and your property and you move in with them 24/7 ..... forever (they should pay class 3 NI stamps to give you a pension after they have gone). No responsibilities except to serve your Masters. Any other option isn't slavery ! If only time travel was possible we could rid history of William Wilberforce. If we could do that, where would we stop? | |||
| 30 Jul 10, 11:52 PM misfit UK, 3 yrs |
Escrow for subs - I like it M Space travels in my blood. And there ain't nothing I can do about it. | |||
| 31 Jul 10, 12:04 AM misfit UK, 3 yrs |
Apples and pears then, but I would not offer my services full time unless I was self sufficient. I therefore do not think such a lifestyle is sustainable without it. I still do not believe the answer is to ask for payment. If one were to visit a PD for such services I expect an invoice would be forthcoming. In this context you have actually saved money, although I am not sure it will be one method Martyn Lewis would recommend. M Space travels in my blood. And there ain't nothing I can do about it. |
