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New Club: Pussy Control(YUMMY) (94)

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13 Jul 10, 12:57 PM
Avada_Kedavra
UK, 7 yrs
Women only club or those that pretend to be should not allow men in. Otherwise it just becomes like every other club, except that the men have to pay exorbitant fees to get into, and then not be allowed in the dungeon, so why would men want to come anyway?

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13 Jul 10, 1:01 PM
morphia
UK(W), 10 yrs
Am i right in assuming that male 'non alpha' transvestites ( whatever they are) and cross dressers would need to be accompanied by a woman?

Would F-M transmen also need to be accompanied by a female?

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13 Jul 10, 1:04 PM
Bubbles_2
UK(E), 6 yrs
Sponge_boobs wrote:
Phoenyx wrote:
OMG....

This is just down the road from me. Definitely count me in. Need more female on female orientated play spaces. And I like the fact that menn will be allowed in as guests to the club but not allowed into the play room.

ok.... i dont understand why men would be allowed in the club but not allowed to play.... am i missing something here?

being bi i wud like to have the chance to allow a male partner to join in on our play between two girls.

will be nterested to see peoples views on this

Perhaps it's some kind of humiliation thing?

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13 Jul 10, 1:06 PM
go_dutch
UK(AL), 4 yrs


morphia wrote:
Am i right in assuming that male 'non alpha' transvestites ( whatever they are) and cross dressers would need to be accompanied by a woman?

Would F-M transmen also need to be accompanied by a female?

they never answered what they meant when i asked what that meant, all i can think is that they mean you must be a sub or bottom if you're a transvestite?

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13 Jul 10, 1:13 PM
totallycoverme
UK(M), 4 yrs
I'm not slating the event, I'm just really curious regarding what it's about and what it's trying to achieve.

Taking SMDykes play parties for example, they are aimed at people who identify as female only. I am under the impression that this is to create a space where women feel comfortable to play in the company of their own gender because this is what they prefer.

But if you allow men into the club anyway, doesn't this defeat the object. (When I fully believed that I was lesbian and only lesbian, I always felt far more comfortable playing in a women only environment)

I'm not slating your event at all because maybe what you're trying to achieve doesn't correlate with my own idea of what a women only night is and what it is trying to do for the people who attend.

Ultimately, if an event appeals go, if not then don't so I'm merely asking questions out of curiosity.

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13 Jul 10, 1:16 PM
the_doc
UK(WC), 5 yrs

joanie wrote:
Women only club or those that pretend to be should not allow men in. Otherwise it just becomes like every other club, except that the men have to pay exorbitant fees to get into, and then not be allowed in the dungeon, so why would men want to come anyway?

I have been reading this whole thread with quite a bit of interest as my partner has, in the past, been to and enjoyed female only events. Joanie has hit the nail right on the head for me. Why would I pay a higher price to go and stand around? What would I do all night while my girlfriend was playing other than chat to other men, stand at the bar and feel like a prize idiot? I'm not a wanky man by any stretch of the imagination, but I would feel like one.

When my partner has gone to events like TTV in the past, I have enjoyed going out elsewhere for cocktails and a bit of my own time. I trust her and have never felt the need to watch over her in that circumstance, in fact I suspect that she feels more comfortable that I don't. I don't see why men need to attend female events, and I don't want to spoil their fun.

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13 Jul 10, 2:16 PM
SubWhisperer
UK, 5 yrs

Farnam wrote:
Sponge_boobs wrote:

being bi i wud like to have the chance to allow a male partner to join in on our play between two girls.

will be nterested to see peoples views on this

And there we have it - in one flash of 'equality' heteronormativity and male-oriented fantasy is re-establihsed, womens sexuality is sidelined, and the club becomes identical to any other, not a welcomming space for women.

If you'd stop being so outraged for a moment and read what you are throwing a tantrum about, you'd see it was her fantasy - and you are the one sidelining her sexuality.

Same goes for "my personal preference would be for the boy friends to be left at home. If they are really that helpless that they can't do without their girl for one night, I'm sure we could set up a baby-sitting rota or something."

Have you ever considered that someones girlfriend might ask him to come along for moral support ?

Ever wondered who the devil comes to for ideas ?

13 Jul 10, 2:22 PM
go_dutch
UK(AL), 4 yrs


Purple_x wrote:
Farnam wrote:
Sponge_boobs wrote:

being bi i wud like to have the chance to allow a male partner to join in on our play between two girls.

will be nterested to see peoples views on this

And there we have it - in one flash of 'equality' heteronormativity and male-oriented fantasy is re-establihsed, womens sexuality is sidelined, and the club becomes identical to any other, not a welcomming space for women.

If you'd stop being so outraged for a moment and read what you are throwing a tantrum about, you'd see it was her fantasy - and you are the one sidelining her sexuality.

Same goes for "my personal preference would be for the boy friends to be left at home. If they are really that helpless that they can't do without their girl for one night, I'm sure we could set up a baby-sitting rota or something."

Have you ever considered that someones girlfriend might ask him to come along for moral support ?

in that case why not arrange something more private? i can pretty much guarantee that they've ostracised A LOT of their potential market, as seen via this thread. they're either stopped a lot of the girls wanting a women only event from going, or they've stopped the girls and guys that might want to go but are disgusted at the price difference in the price structure.

the problem isn't her fantasy, the problem is that this is no one else's fantasy. if you want to get watched fucking a woman by a man there are plenty of swingers clubs where you can do just that.

Edited to embolden the quote

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Edited 13 Jul 10, 2:23 PM by go_dutch

13 Jul 10, 2:57 PM
Jane_Fae
UK(W), 3 yrs
Purple_x wrote:
Farnam wrote:
Sponge_boobs wrote:

being bi i wud like to have the chance to allow a male partner to join in on our play between two girls.

will be nterested to see peoples views on this

And there we have it - in one flash of 'equality' heteronormativity and male-oriented fantasy is re-establihsed, womens sexuality is sidelined, and the club becomes identical to any other, not a welcomming space for women.

If you'd stop being so outraged for a moment and read what you are throwing a tantrum about, you'd see it was her fantasy - and you are the one sidelining her sexuality.

Same goes for "my personal preference would be for the boy friends to be left at home. If they are really that helpless that they can't do without their girl for one night, I'm sure we could set up a baby-sitting rota or something."

Have you ever considered that someones girlfriend might ask him to come along for moral support ?

er, no: if it was someone's fantasy to shag or be shagged whilst involving a bloke, that is no prob. It just sort of undercuts the whole point of a women-only club.

Personally, as someone who loved TTV not for its sexual goings-on, but for the companionship and laidback atmosphere, i think most of this theoretical debate is a load of tosh.

There is a wrld of differnce between a women only club and a "women-only club that lets in men". In most everyday parlance, the latter is known more simply as "a club".

As this progresses, what i can see happening is the tension between those two claims gradually unravelling. There is nothing wrong with either sort of club: there is a lot wrong with a club positioning itself as one of those and then turning out to be the other.

i shall go to the opening event with optimism...but i can foresee dissent in the ranks.

jane xx

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13 Jul 10, 3:00 PM
go_dutch
UK(AL), 4 yrs


Jane_Fae wrote:
Purple_x wrote:
Farnam wrote:
Sponge_boobs wrote:

being bi i wud like to have the chance to allow a male partner to join in on our play between two girls.

will be nterested to see peoples views on this

And there we have it - in one flash of 'equality' heteronormativity and male-oriented fantasy is re-establihsed, womens sexuality is sidelined, and the club becomes identical to any other, not a welcomming space for women.

If you'd stop being so outraged for a moment and read what you are throwing a tantrum about, you'd see it was her fantasy - and you are the one sidelining her sexuality.

Same goes for "my personal preference would be for the boy friends to be left at home. If they are really that helpless that they can't do without their girl for one night, I'm sure we could set up a baby-sitting rota or something."

Have you ever considered that someones girlfriend might ask him to come along for moral support ?

er, no: if it was someone's fantasy to shag or be shagged whilst involving a bloke, that is no prob. It just sort of undercuts the whole point of a women-only club.

Personally, as someone who loved TTV not for its sexual goings-on, but for the companionship and laidback atmosphere, i think most of this theoretical debate is a load of tosh.

There is a wrld of differnce between a women only club and a "women-only club that lets in men". In most everyday parlance, the latter is known more simply as "a club".

As this progresses, what i can see happening is the tension between those two claims gradually unravelling. There is nothing wrong with either sort of club: there is a lot wrong with a club positioning itself as one of those and then turning out to be the other.

i shall go to the opening event with optimism...but i can foresee dissent in the ranks.

jane xx

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