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20 Jun 10, 8:56 AM
sir_63
UK(OX), 2 yrs
steve_jn wrote:
Is it me or am I missing something about the 'stronger' side of the pain aspect of BDSM. For example the canning element etc - it looks bloomin painful! What is the deal?
It comes down to body chemistry. Pain and lust / pleasure are close siblings as they cause very similar effects in your body. You know(?) you can downright torture somebody by orgasm denial - too much of that can turn painful. Vice versa, strong pain provokes the body to set free similar hormons and cause kind of a flush or inebriation - that's e.g. what extreme-sports fans often report when asked why they're doing what they're doing.

Add the psychological side to it that was quoted by a number of cobtributors here (the idea of serving, the idea of loosing control, the pride of having withstood when it's over) and you know the theory of the story.

Whether it's for you only practical experience can tell. I for one do actually like administering pain, as long as I know sub likes and enjoys it. Every now and then I do switch and take some pain, so to get an idea what I do to my sub.

Hope that helps

Sir

20 Jun 10, 9:22 AM
Twistee
UK(BA), 3 yrs


epona74 wrote:
When done with power, yes, it bloody hurts. But a skilled Top will know from that building up how far to take it, and keep you just below the edge of what you can take. A skilled Top will adjust their strokes according to the person, the day, the mood, etc to ensure that they never go beyond what the bottom can cope with.

That's where things get really interesting for me during pain play. Being at the edge of what I can take, but not quite going over it. At that intensity, it's actually more about submission, because it is pain, and it is unpleasant.

But to be taken there, and kept teetering on the edge, not quite knowing whether I'll reach that tipping point, or when it's going to stop ... that's what it's all about. Submission, and giving pleasure to a sadistic Top.

Of course, knowing that I'll get a huge endorphin rush when it's over kind of helps too ;)

~Twistee~

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24 Jun 10, 3:44 PM
Kitana*
UK(LE), 10 yrs
steve_jn wrote:
.. that hurts

Is it me or am I missing something about the 'stronger' side of the pain aspect of BDSM. For example the canning element etc - it looks bloomin painful! What is the deal?

You might enjoy our video which explains some of the sensation of BDSM play from a subs perspective: http://www.freakclubwear.co.uk/store/index.php Vicky

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24 Jun 10, 4:02 PM
misfit
UK, 3 yrs
yoda_dog wrote:
steve_jn wrote:
.. that hurts

Is it me or am I missing something about the 'stronger' side of the pain aspect of BDSM. For example the canning element etc - it looks bloomin painful! What is the deal?

It *is* really painful...being squished so small, sealing the metal lid, I hate being put in a can :-(

:-D

M

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25 Jun 10, 9:55 PM
SnowdropExplodes
UK(TN), 7 yrs

Speaking in masochist mode, what I get out of even quite heavy pain is that the sensation is physically pleasurable!

Although that needs qualification: Generally it needs to be in a positive context, and not all types of pain are pleasurable. I particularly like hitty things, scratching things, electricity things and hot things. I really don't enjoy pointy things, cutting things or pinchy things.

But basically, my brain circuitry processes the pain both as "Pain! A warning!" and "MMMMM, that feels GOOOOOOD!" As long as the context is such where I can safely ignore the warning, then I get to enjoy the "feels GOOD!" but if I need to heed the warning, I don't feel the pleasure because removing the present danger overrides everything else.

25 Jun 10, 11:36 PM
smoofing
UK(SW), 2 yrs

epona74 wrote:

The important bit if you're new to the idea, is to have someone who builds up gradually, easing off, building up, easing off, so your body (and mind) get used to the idea.

Twistee wrote:

Of course, knowing that I'll get a huge endorphin rush when it's over kind of helps too

i don't know much about caning. but both these comments apply perfectly to my experience as a very willing spankee.

some of those photos with the many red welts scare me, but i guess the photo doesn't show the build up, the route they took to that 'extreme' result. i have had spanking experiences where the spanker has just whaled in from dot one, and that brings instant fight or flight reaction,which is no fun, rather than the gradual build up to your limit which is so very delishious and sexy.

ps. i'm liking the sound of Twilting , sounds like a purfect intro to cane play :)

26 Jun 10, 12:37 AM
pinkylucy
UK(M), 9 yrs


As others have said, caning doesn't have to hurt - but there are many reasons why a bottom or submissive might be happy that it does.

I came to my previous Mistress with a terror of the cane. She loved the cane. Obviously this would never do! She gradually trained me out of the terror by introducing and using the cane in numerous ways which did not hurt, but did add something to our play. So I learned that a cane can be present without feeling great pain.

Gradually the use of the cane increased and extended into painful use. By this time my terror had abated and I regained a healthy fear of the cane within a D/s structure. It eventually became instated as an implement which was primarily associated with fear and pain in the context of punishment.

In direct reference to the OP - why would I want that? For me, accepting unwanted pain as punishment reinforced the D/s dynamic which our relationship was structured on and as such it held a very important place in my heart despite the fact I bloody hated the things! Erotic caning is certainly one way to ensure that your body still lusts after canes whilst simultaneously not liking the pain they can inflict! For me lust and fear is about the most powerful combination going.

So whilst the cane often hurt, it helped to maintain the chosen structure of our relationship, helped me to remember my rules, turned me on immensely (much to my own annoyance and embarrassment at times ;)), provided versatile stimulation and *also* hurt like fuck!!

Hmmm, have I just actually written a paragraph in praise of canes? I think I'd better lie down, I must be ill......

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26 Jun 10, 5:14 PM
Degenerate*
UK(M), 5 yrs

poupee wrote:
skadii wrote:
Also, since you specifically asked about caning, it is possible to use a cane in a sensual or pleasurable way, rather than just whacking the hell out of someone with it.

Really? :D I'm not so sure...

Yeah poupee. Some people just don't use it in nice ways, for a variety of reasons. :-p

Nice post skadii, I agree :-) for anyone who can use the cane as a versatile implement instead of just using one style of caning - eg schoolroom style punishment caning - it has lots of potential in sensation play, including some very sexy uses.

I'm not even going to start typing anything else, as I could probably fill the thread with cane stuff all on my own.;-)

De

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Edited 26 Jun 10, 5:15 PM by Degenerate

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