Vetting and Barring RIP (41)

For example, a fair percentage of children abused, are abused from within the family or close friends. Folks get hung up on "stranger danger", its only half the picture.

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It would not have prevented this crime at all. He did not work at the school of the two young girl he murdered. He only know them because of his squeaky clean girlfriend. This is the same mistake that a thankfully ex-minister made on TV today. In his case it was probably another deliberate lie from an ex Labour minister trying to defend this nasty piece of legislation. Thank fuck that cunt and his slithery chums are no longer in power!

Edited 16 Jun 10, 1:32 AM by keithunder

Wow. Another reason not to volunteer interviews to the police.

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Edited 16 Jun 10, 1:58 AM by doulos

Why is the state responsible for this?

Other than where it is the employer of the relevant adults.

Because it is the state who has the information on suspected and previously charged criminals. The Dunblane massacre was carried out way before these CRB checks and the perpetrator had even complained to the Queen that he was barred from being a scout master. The scouting organisation knew he was dodgy and kept him at bay, possibly because it was a small community and information was more easily passed.

If a school has more information (regarding an employee) available than a parent has (regarding a partner), then that strikes me as eronious and stupid. However the 'suspected' word remains contrary to all the principals of freedom and justice, that I am aware of - anyone can be suspected of anything, and the police are basically employed to find people and suspect them of stuff - only the courts have a basis to decide if there is merit in it

And all men kill the thing they love, By all let this be heard, Some do it with a bitter look, Some with a flattering word, The coward does it with a kiss, The brave man with a sword!

That the police and courts holds the records on previous allegations is relevant to whether the State has the ability to monitor the activities of people who have been previously accused or suspected. Sainsburys has the ability to monitor how much pizza I buy but it doesn't mean it should.

So, should the State only monitor alleged propensity to child offences or all other offences too? Why is it the role of the State to protect us from potential criminal acts rather than carry out its age old role of punishing actual perpetrators.

I know what you mean tho. I do some voluntary work on heritage railways, and each one needs a CRB, even though I've got one as a taxi driver! The strange thing is that I can drive a bus full of school kids without a CRB check providing it's on a registered bus route!

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Edited 11 Dec 10, 5:39 PM by Top_Class