12 Jun 10, 9:55 AM MissAnnThropist UK(SE), 3 yrs

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Manteau wrote:
He he... any sentence with 'with respect' or 'with all due respect' usually means the inference is the diametric opposite..
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Advance apology for mini thread hijack...
I'm sorry you interpret that expression that way - in much the same way many others on IC seem to interpret it.
I was brought up to use that expression to mean "I respect your view, but I see things differently. I am giving my different (though not necessarily opposing) view, but giving you the respect you deserve to maintain your view."
So does this mean I'm being naive in my use of the expression or am I being passive aggressive again? Awaits the flaming I play dead it stops the hurting / I play dead and hurting stops
It's sometimes just like sleeping / curling up inside my private tortures
I nestle into pain / hug suffering / caress every ache
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12 Jun 10, 10:03 AM Jacques_Pierre 2 yrs  |
Purvection wrote:
Jacques_Pierre wrote: But I didn't ask about 'predilections'; I asked about 'proclivities', and with respect that demands one hell of a lot in-depth insider info. |
No it doesn't, it requires a dictionary. That is all. And you don't even need to buy one. There's a perfectly good one at http://www.macmillandictionary.com/
Now be a good chap and use it so the threads can stay on topic.
Aut disce aut discede. Manet sors tertia caedi
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I assume the last bit is a foreign language, rather than just a random assortment of letters? If so, could you please translate for the benefit of we great unwashed? Jacques-Pierre
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12 Jun 10, 10:10 AM Manteau UK(S), 2 yrs 
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Purvection wrote:
Aut disce aut discede. Manet sors tertia caedi
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Jacques_Pierre wrote:
I assume the last bit is a foreign language, rather than just a random assortment of letters? If so, could you please translate for the benefit of we great unwashed?
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I think....
learn, leave or be beaten
Suffering becomes beautiful when anyone bears great Calamities with cheerfulness, not through insensibility but through greatness of mind.
Aristotle
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12 Jun 10, 10:16 AM Manteau UK(S), 2 yrs 
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tied_n_tested wrote:
Manteau wrote:
He he... any sentence with 'with respect' or 'with all due respect' usually means the inference is the diametric opposite..
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Advance apology for mini thread hijack...
I'm sorry you interpret that expression that way - in much the same way many others on IC seem to interpret it.
I was brought up to use that expression to mean "I respect your view, but I see things differently. I am giving my different (though not necessarily opposing) view, but giving you the respect you deserve to maintain your view."
So does this mean I'm being naive in my use of the expression or am I being passive aggressive again? Awaits the flaming
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No no..again, the typed word is open to interpretation of intention. I agree with your interpretation; which is how I would use it, but I've done that (in my naivity) face to face, and it's been received as if I was taking the piss, and in fact implying 'Fuck you', when in fact I really did mean 'I understand what you're saying, but I think differently'..Hence my reply to what Jacques said: I apologise for any offence caused.
Suffering becomes beautiful when anyone bears great Calamities with cheerfulness, not through insensibility but through greatness of mind.
Aristotle
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12 Jun 10, 10:17 AM Manteau UK(S), 2 yrs 
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Jacques_Pierre wrote:
2. Gynaecology. Not sure what you're suggesting? That I should Google the relevant procedure next time I'm about to perform an operation?
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I think you'll be fine, just keep your hand in... Suffering becomes beautiful when anyone bears great Calamities with cheerfulness, not through insensibility but through greatness of mind.
Aristotle
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12 Jun 10, 10:21 AM Jacques_Pierre 2 yrs  |
Manteau wrote:
tied_n_tested wrote:
Manteau wrote:
He he... any sentence with 'with respect' or 'with all due respect' usually means the inference is the diametric opposite..
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Advance apology for mini thread hijack...
I'm sorry you interpret that expression that way - in much the same way many others on IC seem to interpret it.
I was brought up to use that expression to mean "I respect your view, but I see things differently. I am giving my different (though not necessarily opposing) view, but giving you the respect you deserve to maintain your view."
So does this mean I'm being naive in my use of the expression or am I being passive aggressive again? Awaits the flaming
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No no..again, the typed word is open to interpretation of intention. I agree with your interpretation; which is how I would use it, but I've done that (in my naivity) face to face, and it's been received as if I was taking the piss, and in fact implying 'Fuck you', when in fact I really did mean 'I understand what you're saying, but I think differently'..Hence my reply to what Jacques said: I apologise for any offence caused.
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I was just pointing out a *simple fact* - that 'proclivities' is heavy going. I couldn't claim to understand everything Clodmin was on about, so saying I understand and think differently would probably be going a bit far. Probably I think differently however, because he seemed to be implying I'm an arsehole (although come to think of it, that seems a funny term to use as an insult on a site like this one where folk seem to be quite keen on them).
eta: It'd be disingenuous to claim no offence has been caused; but not by you to me, so rest easy about that. Jacques-Pierre
Edited 12 Jun 10, 10:23 AM by Jacques_Pierre
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12 Jun 10, 12:02 PM Purvection UK(M), 8 yrs

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Jacques_Pierre wrote:
Purvection wrote:
Jacques_Pierre wrote: But I didn't ask about 'predilections'; I asked about 'proclivities', and with respect that demands one hell of a lot in-depth insider info. |
No it doesn't, it requires a dictionary. That is all. And you don't even need to buy one. There's a perfectly good one at http://www.macmillandictionary.com/
Now be a good chap and use it so the threads can stay on topic.
Aut disce aut discede. Manet sors tertia caedi
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I assume the last bit is a foreign language, rather than just a random assortment of letters? If so, could you please translate for the benefit of we great unwashed?
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Now you really are being lazy. It's Latin and there's a translation on my profile page, although no doubt you won't be bothered to scroll down that far.
Aut disce aut discede. Manet sors tertia caedi
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12 Jun 10, 12:10 PM Jacques_Pierre 2 yrs  |
Purvection wrote:
Jacques_Pierre wrote:
Purvection wrote:
Jacques_Pierre wrote: But I didn't ask about 'predilections'; I asked about 'proclivities', and with respect that demands one hell of a lot in-depth insider info. |
No it doesn't, it requires a dictionary. That is all. And you don't even need to buy one. There's a perfectly good one at http://www.macmillandictionary.com/
Now be a good chap and use it so the threads can stay on topic.
Aut disce aut discede. Manet sors tertia caedi
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I assume the last bit is a foreign language, rather than just a random assortment of letters? If so, could you please translate for the benefit of we great unwashed?
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Now you really are being lazy. It's Latin and there's a translation on my profile page, although no doubt you won't be bothered to scroll down that far.
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Let me try to put this gently. You should maybe sometimes think a bit less about what is the meaning of words in teh dictionary (lexical meaning), and a bit more about what they are being used to say (textual, or discourse, or pragmatic meaning).
A good place to start, if you want to test out this idea as a potentially dangerous novelty that requires a secure environment, would be by looking at some posts by @Clodmin.
After that, go back and look again at my original post about 'proclivities'. All I was trying to say was that it seemed a bit more Latinate than was strictly necessary. Jacques-Pierre
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12 Jun 10, 12:15 PM apriljones UK(SE), 2 yrs |
Belasarius wrote:
cornelius2010 wrote:
You could change. I mean, if you really liked someone that much, you could choose not to be into, well, ...
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Yeah... right,
I thought that and trapped myself in a vanilla marriage and made everyone miserable.
Ok, if you are in a vanilla relationship and you awaken either to kink or an O&P dynamic then you need to either bite your lip, try to interest your partner or get out.
But, if you are not in a relationship and you already know your kink or O&P needs are something you can't live without then why would you risk misery for two by seeking a vanilla partner.
Yes, I know there are different degrees of need and some of us can take or leave it. But, if you cant, why search outside our world?
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bang on. if you know your kinks and seek a vanilla partner, don't be surprised when you're unsatisfied and they feel inadaquate being unable to fulfill your needs. If you're lucky enough not to have fallen for a vanilla by accident then adopt a perves only dating policy
xx
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12 Jun 10, 12:25 PM Lady_Lucan UK(L), 4 yrs |
What about the flip side of this - that a closet BDSMer wouldn't be able to fulfil a vanilla's needs?
I certainly wasn't able to, anyway. They that love not Tobacco & Boies were fooles.
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