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Why the pain? (37)

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6 Jun 10, 9:46 PM
OllieVW
3 yrs
Yeahh more PAIN threads :-D what a god day to be a Masochist.

Im no expert and this is only from my own experiences over time but I find no other feeling compares to Pain.

Its sore, its fun, its intense, its intimate, it can make me angry it can make me happy. sometimes its good sometimes its GRRRRREAT :-D Certain forms of pain are sexualy more stimulating than others but all pain (for me) is sexual.

as subbietrouble said i get pleasure from pain and not just within bdsm. Why? fucked if I know I just do.

Raw physical violence just does it but instead of getting it down my local and ending up in the hospitality of her majesty's finest I finaly found somewhere and others who enjoy similar things.

Sometimes the pleasure comes from the act sometimes its from the chemical reaction "the endorphin high" and now knowing the person delivering my pain is enjoying themselves is beginning to be as equaly imnportant.

I dont take pain to please or serve its purely for sexual pleasure but I have given total control over my body to my partner whom i trust and cherish.

There is never a time where I dont get that feeling of "why does this feel so good" its very common and nothing to be affraid off im still not sure why pain sexualy turns me on so much.

I do find pain very very mothering and intimate it was also part of a very bonding stage of my life.

You should be pleased with yourself not all submissives enjoy pain only the fact that they are pleasing/serving.

As long as you play within your limits and thats down to you & your dom/me limits can change and having a bad experience doesnt have to change anything just learn from it.

When you both know each other enough then very few limits will remain.

Remember its about having fun and on both parts.

Hope you continue to explore and experience pain its truely a wonderfull thing.

And the sex aint half bad either ;)

Darling, I'll bathe your skin, I'll even wash your clothes, Just give me some candy before I go. Oh darling, I'll kiss your eyes and lay you down on your rug, Just give me some candy before I go.

6 Jun 10, 9:54 PM
Diablos_patience
UK, 6 yrs
His_kitten wrote:

But, why is it that no-one ever seems to understand that a submissive who's also a masochist doesn't enjoy anything about the pain when it's a punishment...?

Because some people just dont understand the complexities that are entwined with submission... they also dont understand terms yet and therefore use them incorrectly.

Those of us that do understand the dynmaic know punishment is bad, its bloody meant to be.... when ever I read someone saying otherwise I either try to correct the view like i have on this thread, or I just sigh.

~* Raku wa ku no tané; ku wa raku no tané. *~

6 Jun 10, 10:20 PM
subspete
UK(CB), 4 yrs

subbietrouble wrote:
I realise now, the only thing I lost along the way was my fear of pain. So long as it won't damage me, what's to fear?

subbie xxx

This set off something in my head. Being relatively inexperienced, I always thought that cp and caning wouldn't be something that I enjoyed. There's definitely a conflict with what my body is saying, ow that effing hurts, and what my mind was saying. After a few play sessions and inevitable canings, it always felt to me that cp was the hardest part of the session, mainly because of the fear of the pain, not the pain itself.

In my most recent experience something clicked and i relaxed as each stroke came. It felt like the fear of pain had reduced and I focused more on enjoying the sensation. It's still a bit weird in my head to think that I enjoy being beaten, but as a previous poster said once a limit has been pushed you just want to push it further.

6 Jun 10, 10:56 PM
JonathanM
UK(IP), 2 yrs
temperance wrote:
JonathanM wrote:
Being Dom, I have no personal experience of experiencing pain and I'm only now wanting to learn how to inflict it properly (any subs willing to teach the niceties, please get in touch).

Well my deeply submissive side is currently calling out me,me me, meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee... I'll help you experience pain i you should wish... but in the only way that it is truely possible to experience it and that is by receiving it... fear not Im very good at dishing pain out :-D

JonathanM wrote:
But I HAVE spoken to many subs about this and every single one said that during the flogging (or whatever) they were not experiencing the "punishment" as pain. J

Incorrect... punishment's are never ever a good thing... so to write that is not a true reflection of what submissives feel when they are being 'punished', punishments are bad and tend to be avoided at all costs as it shows that you have displeased the person whom you are there to please and the psychological notion of that is far worse than any physical act of receiving pain... its not good to describe SM play as 'punishment' is isnt.

Now if we're talking about the administering of sensations for pleasure and how does that feel... well... I love dishing out pain. There is something very mind blowingly hot when you have a person before you who is willing to let you go to work on their body, watching their body react to the things that you do, watching them flinch and suffer for the fact they want nothing more than to please you and then the beautiul marks that are left upon their skin, your handiwork a piece of art etched upon their body a reminder which will remain with them for days to come, weeks if they're lucky and months if they are even luckier... ahhhhhhhhhhhhh beautiful, beautiful pain.... I adore it, giving and receiving. :-p

Please note that I used quote marks around the word "punishment". I wasn't using it in the BDSM sense of punishment for wrong-doing but as a boxer may be said to be inflicting punishment on his opponent - just a physical action without connotation of retribution for wrong-doing. The word was used merely as a catch-all for the acts that a Dom/me might carry out on his sub's body. Perhaps I should have been clearer.

My appeal to a sub to teach me the niceties was an invitation to teach me how to inflict, not an invitation to inflict on me. But I'm sure you realised that. Is it accepted etiquette for a Dom/me to offer to inflict pain on another? Or is it just arrogance? It might be enlightening to know how many Dom/mes (NOT switches) have had similar pain inflicted on them, just so they know how it feels. J

The solace of the imaginary is not imaginary solace. Roger Scruton

6 Jun 10, 11:10 PM
Fellatino
UK(M), 5 yrs
'Pain' is two things:

A warning about being potentially damaged, and

The fear of the pain itself.

Once you work through this to the base, it is a sensation like any other when it os disconnected from what you have previously learnt.

6 Jun 10, 11:10 PM
Diablos_patience
UK, 6 yrs
JonathanM wrote:

My appeal to a sub to teach me the niceties was an invitation to teach me how to inflict, not an invitation to inflict on me. But I'm sure you realised that. Is it accepted etiquette for a Dom/me to offer to inflict pain on another? Or is it just arrogance? It might be enlightening to know how many Dom/mes (NOT switches) have had similar pain inflicted on them, just so they know how it feels. J

My :-) face suggested it was a joke.... so yes I did realise, but it was just too tempting to let it go.... not arrogance but a joke.

Personally I see no harm in a Dominant offering to show someone else how certain things are done/feel. I know quite a few Dominants who do things to themelves in order to get a real sense of the sensation that they are delivering. There are many on here who do believe that in order to dish it out you should fully understand wht it is that you are dishing out.... though of course there are also many on here who would also say that is complete tosh.

~* Raku wa ku no tané; ku wa raku no tané. *~

6 Jun 10, 11:14 PM
Beautifully_Chaotic
UK, 2 yrs
I really enjoy pain. For me I get a greater kick from having pain inflicted on me, than I do most things sexual. But having said that, I wouldnt enjoy the pain if there wasnt any sexual overtones to it, if that makes sense.

When I first started out (and Im still very much "new" to all of this), Id tell people I was into pain, and the first question I would get asked is "Do you self harm?" No I dont, I havent, and never will.......I think part of my enjoyment from taking any amount of pain comes from the fact that the person inflicting it is enjoying it also, if I can see them gaining satisfaction from watching me suffer, its a great turn on.

I find it hard to explain why I like what I like, some things hurt soo bloody bad and part of me wants to shout the safe word, but a greater part of me just wants it to carry on and not stop, not until that warm fuzzy feeling comes along.

Sometimes when I think "why?" too much, it just makes me feel a bit weird, so I say some things just are what they are.

6 Jun 10, 11:24 PM
Intelligencia
UK(GU), 5 yrs
temperance wrote:

JonathanM wrote:
But I HAVE spoken to many subs about this and every single one said that during the flogging (or whatever) they were not experiencing the "punishment" as pain. J

Incorrect... punishment's are never ever a good thing... so to write that is not a true reflection of what submissives feel when they are being 'punished', punishments are bad and tend to be avoided at all costs as it shows that you have displeased the person whom you are there to please and the psychological notion of that is far worse than any physical act of receiving pain... its not good to describe SM play as 'punishment' is isnt.

I concur with temperance on this point. I am a masochist in that I enjoy enduring the pain to the point that the endorphines kick in and I am drowned in a tidal wave of endorphine induced sub space. I also love the battle with 'him' seeing how much 'he' can dish out against how much I can endure BUT punishment, no thanks, punishment is gut wrenchingly horrible, that is whole differnt world of pain - to know I have displeased or, even worse, disappointed 'him' is unbearable, ain't no kinda joy in that kinda pain.

To the OP I can really empathise with where you are just now, when I first got into this I felt 'wrong' and I doubted my own sanity - 'what kind of sick individual am I' I wondered - then I started talking to people and realised that I might be sick but I'm in good company :-D

I Hope you enjoy the ride X

Oh, THAT old paradox!
Schrödinger's Sub

7 Jun 10, 12:04 AM
Polka_Doll
UK(N), 2 yrs
There is this bit in 'Story of O' that I felt really captured my relationship with pain:

O had never understood, but had finally come to recognise as an undeniable and very meaningful truth, the contradictory but constant entanglement of her feelings and attitudes: she liked the idea of torture, when she underwent it she would have seen the earth go up in fire and smoke to escape it, when it was over with she was happy to have undergone it, and all the happier the crueller and more prolonged it had been.

I think of it much in these terms, the idea of pain turns me on, the act of pain bloody hurts and so my body instinctively wants it to stop and when it's over I wear any marks with pride and savour the memories and often wish I'd managed to tolerate more.

Doll "I'm a broken doll & you're the puppeteer, take control for me and wipe away my fears." http://tigertigerdiary.wordpress.com/

7 Jun 10, 1:55 PM
Sub_Perfetto
UK(BB), 3 yrs

I never thought of myself as a masachist but when I think back I very quickly got used to enjoying pain and the sensations, pegs cbt that is. It took a little longer to enjoy spanking as i'd never really been that intrested untill I met my Mistress at a party, she warmed me up which wasnt bad but when the strokes became a little more intense I instantly gave up and used my safe word. At the time I remember thinking I really dont get the facination this isnt for me. Afterwards I wanted to give it another go, Its human nature to push ourselves just as some push there limits in sports or acidemics we push ourselves as subs. Bit by bit I built up a tolerance and began not only to enjoy the sensation but even crave it. As for the satisfaction I get from being able to take as much as my Mistress wants to give. It's priceless.

so what if the voices in my head arnt reall, they have some gud ideas

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