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Ideas for slave training please (94)

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29 May 10, 4:42 PM
Ms_Tytania_London
3 yrs
lisal wrote:

Just out of interest

This morning you responded to my post saying that you agreed with my comment about it not (possibly) being a great idea that a domme should seek advice for how to deal with a specific sub on an open board

I can't see any problem with a Dom/me asking for advice. My problem is with the OP's confession that she's no Domme, but hey, she was getting paid for two hours domming, so how could she refuse?

This is a scene (and this board in particular) where pro-Dommes get questioned very single minute about their sincerity; where we are constantly, constantly being accused of not being Dominant, and only putting on an act for the money.

Then somebody who is so blatantly putting on her Dommy mask to earn a few bob comes along, and I must approve of her attitude to PD'ing. What a bunch of hypocrites you all are, every single gentleman who ran to rescue a damsel in distress from us the ugly, bitter PD's.

I hope she bestows many and juicy blow jobs on all the knights in shining armour who defended her, you have certainly earned it. Enjoy.

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Edited 29 May 10, 4:46 PM by Ms_Tytania_London

29 May 10, 4:55 PM
lisal
9 yrs
Ms_Tytania_London wrote:
I can't see any problem with a Dom/me asking for advice.

It was from the subbie pov MsT; i.e that the domme would be bringing someone else's ideas into the session - and was pretty open about asking for them

From where I am sitting asking for general advice is fine -asking for something that impacts on my particular session is a bit different

It's a bit like what happens on the (ahem) lifestyle side of things when someone (as they have quite recently) asks for suggestions for how to torture their sub (or gets their sub to ask on their behalf). Most responses are that it's between the two of you

Edited 29 May 10, 6:24 PM by lisal

29 May 10, 4:57 PM
a1frenchy
UK(BS), 4 yrs
Yes I still agree 100% lisal. However, there are polite ways to raise issues.

Some PDs are on a bully mode lately...

lisal wrote:
a1frenchy wrote:
[ Don't forget the persecution complex (grandiose type). Here's the main lines:

The individual feels inordinately important, special and superior to other persons. Such a person is very sensitive and fears being demeaned by other persons. He easily feels demeaned, humiliated, belittled, degraded, disgraced etc. He fears criticism, for to be criticized makes him feel not good enough, that is, detracts from his wished grand self. Since all human beings are the same and equal, it follows that any sense of superiority to other persons is false; delusion is belief in what is not true as true, grandiosity is a delusion.

Just out of interest

This morning you responded to my post saying that you agreed with my comment about it not (possibly) being a great idea that a domme should seek advice for how to deal with a specific sub on an open board

You then deleted your post

Do you still agree with my point?

29 May 10, 5:18 PM
Mistress_Susannah
UK(SE), 7 yrs
£
Nina_Jay wrote:
Ideas for slave training please

As many of you may know I work as a pro sub but I'm finding lots of guys wanting me to dom them so I've started doing this and being a sub I am quite good at it. Mainly spanking and caning so far but today I've got a client coming who wants me to train him to adoring slave standard and I have a few ideas but he's booked in for 2 hours!

Any idea's for slave traing as it's not really my field of expertise? Thanks for any advice given

I do agree with the majority of Dommes who have posted on this thread.

You did ask for advice Nina, and you did get it. You may not like the answer but we are basing our advice on our professional experience. If something isn't your "field of expertise" you really shouldn't be offering it..... until it is. Many of us have played for years before feeling comfortable with offering something professionally.

Of course, there are horses for courses - as lisal rightly says there can be joy in learning and experimenting together so long as both parties are aware of that - but perhaps you should have the good sense to talk to people privately and not rush into things just because someone is waving a bunch of fivers at you.... that would be my advice.

Ms Tytania is quite right.... we're so often castigated on this board for "not being Dominant" or "not offering an authentic experience" and with attitudes of, "hey, I don't really know what I'm doing but give me a few pointers and I'll be ok", who can blame those castigators. I wish the detractors would realise that we're not "being bitchy for the sake of it" - why would we? ..... Nina wouldn't attract the same clients we would - we actually have the best interests of both Dommes and submissives at heart. Too many submissives say they've had bad experiences because the Domme didn't know what they were doing..... and yet we're attacked when we say that she should wait a bit before offering something she knows nothing about!

Take your time Nina.... make sure you're offering an experience you can be proud of. Do your homework, do your research.... of course a bit of experience "on the job" can work so long as the client is happy.... but make sure you're taking time between those sessions to really understand and perfect your craft.

Good luck.

www.mistresssusannah.co.uk
www.professionaldomination.co.uk

Edited 29 May 10, 5:22 PM by Mistress_Susannah

29 May 10, 5:27 PM
a1frenchy
UK(BS), 4 yrs
Read yourself, you're the bitter one.

I don't see any problems with acting for money. Who cares if the PD is a natural born dominant or not. To the client perspective this makes absolutely no difference as long as the session is convincing.

The bottom line is that like most profession, PDs do it for the cash so please spare us your so called integrity.

Ms_Tytania_London wrote:

I can't see any problem with a Dom/me asking for advice. My problem is with the OP's confession that she's no Domme, but hey, she was getting paid for two hours domming, so how could she refuse?

This is a scene (and this board in particular) where pro-Dommes get questioned very single minute about their sincerity; where we are constantly, constantly being accused of not being Dominant, and only putting on an act for the money.

Then somebody who is so blatantly putting on her Dommy mask to earn a few bob comes along, and I must approve of her attitude to PD'ing. What a bunch of hypocrites you all are, every single gentleman who ran to rescue a damsel in distress from us the ugly, bitter PD's.

I hope she bestows many and juicy blow jobs on all the knights in shining armour who defended her, you have certainly earned it. Enjoy.

Edited 29 May 10, 5:29 PM by a1frenchy

29 May 10, 5:34 PM
MistressBeth
UK(M), 4 yrs
£

Well done for asking the question. It is hard being a pro-domme and surely helping out someone taking the first few steps isn't a bad thing.

I guess some of the other Dommes took offence that they can be compromised - almost as if giving away your own tips and tricks is like passing down the family recipe book to a stranger but to me there is not enough fun in this life and if you can help someone else out then its a bonus.

Every month I play at the cottage party and I'm happy to demonstrate anything or advise on safety issues - things that are hard to learn but so essential in dungeon work.

The most important part to me during a session is to hold the subs mind and then fire his emotions all over the place. Be in control and ensure that he knows you are.

If you have any direct questions you would like to ask then please email me privately and I won't laugh or snigger but try to help you out.

On a business note I offer 'couples training' in a professional manner to teach Domination to the best of someones ability to help perfect a happy relationship.

All the best in your future sessions

Beth

Nina_Jay wrote:
Just a quick message as tired and need my bed but the 2 hour dom session went really well and my client said he enjoyed it so much he'll come down from London and see me again soon.

Again sorry I asked for advice.

Be naughty so that I can spank you! Mistress Beth

29 May 10, 5:37 PM
Ms_Tytania_London
3 yrs
a1frenchy wrote:
Read yourself, you're the bitter one.

show me where, oh you poor, poor bullied child.

a1frenchy wrote:
I don't see any problems with acting for money.

Well, everybody else seems to, if you read this board. which you do, so please don't hide your head in the sand.

a1frenchy wrote:
Who cares if the PD is a natural born dominant or not.

My clients do, and so do I.

a1frenchy wrote:
To the client perspective this makes absolutely no difference as long as the session is convincing.

Sounds like a broomstick with two melons and a whip would be enough to get your rocks off. Good, you must be having a ball.

a1frenchy wrote:
The bottom line is that like most profession, PDs do it for the cash so please spare us your so called integrity.

I will when cunts like you stop posting cuntishness.

Mistress Bully.

My website
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29 May 10, 5:42 PM
a1frenchy
UK(BS), 4 yrs
You so up your ass you do not live in rough East London but in glamourous Canary Wharf LOL

Ms_Tytania_London wrote:
a1frenchy wrote:
Read yourself, you're the bitter one.

show me where, oh you poor, poor bullied child.

a1frenchy wrote:
I don't see any problems with acting for money.

Well, everybody else seems to, if you read this board. which you do, so please don't hide your head in the sand.

a1frenchy wrote:
Who cares if the PD is a natural born dominant or not.

My clients do, and so do I.

a1frenchy wrote:
To the client perspective this makes absolutely no difference as long as the session is convincing.

Sounds like a broomstick with two melons and a whip would be enough to get your rocks off. Good, you must be having a ball.

a1frenchy wrote:
The bottom line is that like most profession, PDs do it for the cash so please spare us your so called integrity.

I will when cunts like you stop posting cuntishness.

Mistress Bully.

29 May 10, 5:47 PM
Mistress_Susannah
UK(SE), 7 yrs
£
MistressBeth wrote:
Well done for asking the question. It is hard being a pro-domme and surely helping out someone taking the first few steps isn't a bad thing.

I guess some of the other Dommes took offence that they can be compromised - almost as if giving away your own tips and tricks is like passing down the family recipe book to a stranger but to me there is not enough fun in this life and if you can help someone else out then its a bonus.

Every month I play at the cottage party and I'm happy to demonstrate anything or advise on safety issues - things that are hard to learn but so essential in dungeon work.

The most important part to me during a session is to hold the subs mind and then fire his emotions all over the place. Be in control and ensure that he knows you are.

If you have any direct questions you would like to ask then please email me privately and I won't laugh or snigger but try to help you out.

On a business note I offer 'couples training' in a professional manner to teach Domination to the best of someones ability to help perfect a happy relationship.

All the best in your future sessions

Beth

I think you've misunderstood motivations for many of our posts.

Many of us here are more than happy to exchange our ideas and skills on a regular basis. Many of us play at clubs and parties and do demos at events.

What we're objecting to is that a few pointers on a website can instruct someone how to deliver a successful session. In my experience, that's really not how it works. Granted, it may have been a bad choice of words by Nina.... but the assumption that's all that it takes is a little insulting to what we all do. If people want to accuse me of being precious about that.... fine. But the way I like to work takes a huge amount of emotional, cerebral and physical energy which doesn't equate to a few tips.

www.mistresssusannah.co.uk
www.professionaldomination.co.uk

29 May 10, 6:35 PM
lisal
9 yrs
a1frenchy wrote:

I don't see any problems with acting for money. Who cares if the PD is a natural born dominant or not. To the client perspective this makes absolutely no difference as long as the session is convincing.

I don't see any problem in acting for money if that's what both sides are happy with - and aware of

For many clients (and I know quite a few) it is very important that the domme really is a domme . I am lucky enough to be seeing someone who is naturally dominant

How would you feel if you were (and I don't know whether you are or not) in a "lifestyle" relationship and you found out your partner was "acting the part" to make it good for you?

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