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Suspension Cuffs Advice Needed (9)

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Mon 10 May 10, 1:56 AM
Fire_Hazard
UK(L), 2 yrs
Hi All, I have tried some suspension bondage a few times with a couple of different girls, but the main problem I have is that they feel they are falling out of the wrist cuffs, despite trying to get the cuffs as tight as possible. The cuffs I use are:

http://www.stockroom.com/Deluxe-Suspension-Cuffs...

I wonder if its just due to the quality of the cuffs that this is happening and perhaps a better quality pair would make the difference, such as:

http://www.top-to-bottom-leathers.co.uk/Bondage-...

But my other thought is if its to do with the design of the cuffs and if a slight variation on the design would help, such as:

http://www.madame-s.com/SL054.html

Alternatively my other option is to go for a completely different design, something like:

http://www.quality-control.co.uk/products/suspen...

Although these have a bar that can be gripped, I don't think the girls I use them with would be able to hold on for more than a few minutes anyway, which I suspect would make the handles redundant.

Plus I do like locking restraints, which is why I'm in favour of the original design I bought. But as I can't afford to just buy a pair of each to experiment I was hoping to draw on the collective experience of the IC realm.

Advise please?

Many thanks

FH

10 May 10, 8:47 AM
KinkyRoly
UK(OX), 3 yrs

If you're talking about wrist suspension where the entire body is off the ground, then I thin k the problem is more to do with anatomy.

The wrists aren't particularly suitable for that, particularly female wrists, where the width of the hand is sometimes scarcely bigger than the wrist itself. Quite apart from considerations of how well the wrist is able to cope with the strain, the cuffs often need to be very tight in order to work.

We use and sell seemingly identical cuffs to yours. We love them and we've yet to see better ones. On a St Andrew's cross, we also have some cuffs with a wrist handle like the others you linked to and many people favour them, but no design seems universally right for everybody.

The situation is also made worse by the use of locking buckles. They need a slot rather than simply a hole, so the holes have to be a bit further apart, which means that the adjustment increments are larger. If one hole isn't quite in the perfect position for that person, the next hole makes it a fair bit looser.

We don't use our suspension cuffs for actual suspension, we use them to restrain people in a vertical position.

10 May 10, 8:50 AM
leopard99
UK(N), 2 yrs

Anne and Roly sell some interesting looking suspension cuffs. We tried them at one of the A&R parties. My partner has tiny hands and she seeming in no danger of slipping out though I admit I wasn't taking her full weight on them.

You're rather along way from London/Romford but if you can find an excuse to come to a really super party down this way you can try before you buy, complete with personal advice from Roly on how best to use them.

PS: I was writing at the same time as Roly. He managed to post first!

Edited 10 May 10, 8:51 AM by leopard99

10 May 10, 9:24 AM
silver_lotus
UK(CB), 3 yrs

KinkyRoly wrote:
If you're talking about wrist suspension where the entire body is off the ground, then I thin k the problem is more to do with anatomy.

The wrists aren't particularly suitable for that, particularly female wrists, where the width of the hand is sometimes scarcely bigger than the wrist itself....

We don't use our suspension cuffs for actual suspension, we use them to restrain people in a vertical position.

If you are trying to suspend someone's whole body weight off the floor from just a couple of wrist cuffs, then I'd say don't. I agree with KinkyRoly, the wrists are not designed to hold a full body weight, and you can easily break them both by trying this.

Most of the successful full body suspensions I've seen involve at least 5 and often 7 double or quadruple lines from different points of the body, and even then its not guaranteed it will be comfortable enough to maintain for any length of time. It seems to vary enormously with individuals, irrespective of muscle and weight distribution.

'To Oblivion, and beyond!'

11 May 10, 11:45 PM
The_Perfect_Sadist
UK(PO), 4 yrs

Fire_Hazard wrote:
Suspension Cuffs Advice Needed

Hi All, I have tried some suspension bondage a few times with a couple of different girls, but the main problem I have is that they feel they are falling out of the wrist cuffs, despite trying to get the cuffs as tight as possible. Advise please?

Many thanks

FH

Leather cuffs are useless for this. You need thick rubber cuffs over rubber gloves. They are soft and supple enough to strap them tightly and the friction is too great for any sub to slip her wrist through - they are inescapable.

There is more than one way to skin a cat but there is only one try per cat

12 May 10, 12:41 AM
inappropriate*
UK(CF), 3 yrs
I have very small wrists and the top to bottom leather ones fit my wrists.

On a related note, the accompanying cuffs for feet are way too big as I have tiny ankles/feet/legs - if you want a full set and you have someone tiny in mind, it may be worth getting made to measure.

Also, I think the TtB restraints I tried may have had 4 straps, I can't remember properly now, but it is possible that they would make them for you.

Come to the Cardiff fish and chips munch :)

Edited 12 May 10, 12:43 AM by inappropriate

12 May 10, 12:51 AM
Dominion
UK(BS), 8 yrs
At SWAMP last sunday we had a suspension demo, by these good people

http://www.dungeonequipment.co.uk/

they had brilliant cuffs, and you would never slip and get out of them, would be worth asking where they came from, as they make all their own equipment

Edited to add......they did not suspend from wrists, but from feet, and took great care to get the cuffs just right, even stopping at one point and starting all over again.

I dont do suspension, as have no room for the rig these folk brought with them, but I doubt I would do wrist suspension, and you could never do what they did at swamp it would dislocate a shoulder, or maybe worse i would think

Edited 12 May 10, 12:58 AM by Dominion

12 May 10, 9:45 AM
Leatherdelights*
UK(LE), 3 yrs
The Cuffs used at SWAMP last week by George and Shelia are from Fetters , wrists cost approx £200 a pair , Ankle £300 , Top Quality items , but then again when your Frames are being used by the public at events you can take no chances.
12 May 10, 12:17 PM
Dominion
UK(BS), 8 yrs
Thank you Leatherdelights for that information, I should have known you'd know where they came from.

Was great to see you again at SWAMP, and Roll on LAM

Rob

Edited to add...... wasnt it a brilliant demo, Sheila is soo funny when hung upside down

it showed the fun side, and also showed everyone just how much care you need to take if you decide to do anything like this.

Edited 12 May 10, 12:18 PM by Dominion

12 May 10, 5:32 PM
Mac_rame
UK(E), 12 yrs
If the ladies in question have tiny wrists and hands it will be a problem but not an insurmountable one.

Tiny hands usually make for a tiny body to go with it so there's less weight to worry about:-)

As mentioned above any cuff designed to act on a thin wrist needs to be made very tight to get enough grip and that leads to circulation issues and bruising.

Why not try a monkey trap?

The monkey can get it's hands in the bottle to grab the nut but when holding th nut it is to big to pull back.

If you have a set of mits which enclose the hand in essence making them make a fist inside, you can then have something like the testicle parachute design of an open cone.

This goes around the wrist fairly loosley but the fist cannot pull out of the opening with being supple leather will conform to the hand and not crush anything.

If you make the mit using velcro so it's fully adjustable without any major buckles, and then make the parachute long and sealed with a lockable zip then she won't be able to undo the mit even if she's not being suspended.

Since the mit holds her hand closed it requires no great muscle strength oh her part either.

Hope that helps

Wayne

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They should both be changed frequently
And for the same reason:-)
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