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| Belasarius |
on Sat 8 May 10, 11:00 AM to the Ultraviolence group.
This was a project we started to think about last year, but which we did not pull off.
We'd like to see whether we could get it done over the summer this year.
This post is to seek help, advice and participation.
so far the plan is this.
She digs her own shallow grave and steps into it pink and nekkid. A couple of inches of earth are shovelled over her torso so that wriggly things and moist crumbliness are her bedfellows. A stoutly built and well braced plywood frame is then placed over the torso so the weight of the rest of the earth required to fill her hole (in this case, not an euphemism) does not threaten her breathing.
I think a gas mask with a long hose without a filter at the end is the solution to ensure she can still breath. She demurs as she says gas masks are not pretty. If only Kath Kidson made one.
The grave is then filled, with one set of finger tips left uncovered for wriggling.
Friends will be invited in order that many hands could make light work if sudden shovelling is required.
Notes and queries?
Does anyone have any experiences that would help- or any safety notes or advice?
Does anyone have a sub they would like to take part (A mass grave might be fun).
Does anyone know of a suitable, private venue.
Who is bringing the Pimms?
Best to all.
Edited Sat 8 May 10, 11:17 AM by Belasarius
| 8 May 10, 6:34 PM AshUK UK(EN), 7 yrs £ |
Hell yes. Count me in. I've even got my own spade.. " When I am King, you will be first against the wall... " | |
| 10 May 10, 3:37 PM ocimum_sanctum UK(EH), 2 yrs |
First thought would be to double check the weather report to ensure it doesn't rain: the soil will get substantially heavier and difficult to move if it's sodden. Perhaps take a tarpaulin and erect it above your dig. What means are you employing to allow her to say she's in trouble? i.e. if you're relying on finger wiggling, it may be wise to adopt a dead-mans-handle type approach to cover things like unconsciousness, in other words you assume things are fine as long as her finger still moves. Can you attach a rope to each corner of your plywood frame - you may find the frame more difficult to move in an emergency than you anticipate, having something to yank it out with may be a good backup. What weight of earth is going to be on top of her? Given a 2.5x1x1 volume (length x width x depth) = 2.5 m^3. Say a density of 1200 kg m^-3 thats 3 metric tons of earth to move in an emergency. Assume a survival time of two minutes if there is problem with her breathing (say she accidentally vomits). You'll have a decision time of say 30 secs where you're not quite sure if something is wrong. That means you'll have to move 3000kg earth in 90 secs ~= 33kg earth per second. Can you dig that fast?
Meaning to ask: is Danny Boyle directing this one?
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| 10 May 10, 4:02 PM Belasarius UK(M), 8 yrs      |
Things to ponder - thank you. It's pretty much a "yes. thought of that" to the weather and finger wiggling suggestions - but, yes: earth-moving is something I am still thinking very hard about: It is the biggest risk and i am not happy I am close to solving it yet. I had thought of hinging the frame so earth can be shifted sideways - but that has its own problems. I omitted to say that the plywood frame would be placed on two builders planks gto spread the load and prevent it being pushed further down onto her chest by the weight of earth above. I am beginning to think it may be simpler, if less atmospheric, to bury her in a large box using peat and a quantity of commercially bought worms. My goal - to save women from nature (Dior) Edited 10 May 10, 4:11 PM by Belasarius | |
| 10 May 10, 4:23 PM jukejointjezabel 5 yrs |
I have nothing construstive to add to this thread other than to say this is one of my deepest, darkest fantasies, albeit one I don't think I'd ever be brave enough to carry out. Good luck and please PLEASE post a write up afterwards!
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| 10 May 10, 4:40 PM Belasarius UK(M), 8 yrs |
I've been thinking about the packing crate idea - they look very pricy sadly, but as they can be ordered with removable sides it would be easy to make one side quick release so it can be dropped easily and herself quickly recovered. It's not the same as a self-dug grave though, is it? My goal - to save women from nature (Dior) | |
| 10 May 10, 7:28 PM OllieVW 3 yrs |
Just as an idea why not take her to a local beach, did the shallow grave, place her in it then cover her up and see how she feels as a trial burial. Ive never experienced breathing problems when ive been buried at the beach and in some deepish holes. Sand is very fine so when we very dense and compact. Most beach burials ive experienced it didnt take long before "wet sand" was reached and even far up the beach. I think if you have a plywood frame over her it wont feel like being buried (i may be wrong) but if its a shallow grave then im pressuming your looking at around a foot or foot and a half in depth? I like the idea though that she is buried but her Torso is protected her safety is more important and if i remember right this is a phobia or major issue for her so i rekon just being covered in soil will have the necessary effect.
I have an alternative idea if your interested but dont want to post it on here as itll spoil my fun
Cant wait to read about this Belasarius
"denil isnae just a riva in Egypt" Terry Lawson - Glue by Irvine Welsh | |
| 10 May 10, 7:39 PM hollythedolly UK(NN), 2 yrs  |
Please may i join in the fun this is my kind of thing. I haven't got a spade but i'm sure i can borrow one Another one bites the dust. | |
| 10 May 10, 9:04 PM ocimum_sanctum UK(EH), 2 yrs |
Could you do your original idea then when you're filling earth in on top of the plywood frame, do it in layers (say 20cm thick) separated by strong plastic sheetings. That way in an emergency all it takes is two people to quickly throw back each successive sheet and you don't have to dig? The one benefit of your scenario is that you can test and time these sort of methods beforehand.
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| 13 May 10, 8:23 PM Mistress_Avralivia UK(RG), 4 yrs £ |
I have done this before, and made shore to choose an area with fairly light soil. Had no problems with too much weight, it all depends how deep you want her surely?
I didnt immerse their head though, but put a bucket over it to sit on instead. Senno Ekto Gamat | |
| 14 May 10, 7:36 AM NotTheOne UK(TA), 2 yrs |
I like the idea, but the details are a bugger. The show Mythbusters on Discovery Channel did a thing on buried alive, and whilst oxygen consumption / CO2 production was not much of an issue, the fact the steel casket started buckling after not much soil at all soon put a stop to the plan. I think you will need more than a couple of builders planks, and some pretty thick plywood. A trial run at the beach is a pretty good concept I stared into the abyss, the abyss stared into me. It blinked first. |
