1 May 10, 8:26 PM
swhackford
3 yrs |
SimplySal wrote:
In an age where political parties parade their leaders around like a new breed of celebrity & where every one of their hypothetical warts is numbered and recognisable as an old friend to even the most lack lustre amongst us, we should place Nick Griffin on a podium, much like the main three do with their vaunted figureheads. We should fix his nervous, errant-schoolboy glance with a single spotlight. And someone should utter the word 'Holocaust'. We've become accustomed to judging political parties by the credibility of their leaders. Rightly or wrongly, one individual often carries the reputation of his or her party on their shoulders. Take one man. Take his education. (Oxbridge 2:2 in Law) Then take his continued denial that circa six million (6.6 if you combine the figures of Wannsee with an entry in Goebbel's diary, both dating from 1942) died as a result of a sustained and intricately planned system of mass murder. Then tell me that this man is capable of directing traffic in a funfair ride, let alone leading a political party outside of it's ideology and into reality. And if you want to raise an eyebrow, take a look at one or two of the BNP groups on Facebook. I'm currently engaged in a dialogue with a BNP canvasser who believes that violence is the most efficacious way to maintain power, and that racism is a valid way of thinking.
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It seems that it is impossible to mention Nick Griffin without mentioning holocaust denial. The Holocaust is history, and the world has moved on from then, so it seems utterly pointless to keep bringing it up.
It seems that nobody wants to debate the actual issues of immigration or multiculturalism without constantly referring to the Nazi era. Why is this? |
1 May 10, 8:29 PM
PricklyPear
UK, 3 yrs
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swhackford wrote:
DaddysTouch wrote:
If only more people would vote against Brown/Cameron/Clegg in this way.
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Hear hear! But be careful, saying things like that. You could find yourself being arrested...
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So the BNP don't advocate violence then?
I don't need any politician to persuade me not to vote BNP, I worked it out all by myself. 
You are rather splitting hairs over your terminology. Where people refer to "Nazi" in this thread, I think I'm pretty safe in assuming that they mean "neo-Nazi", unless they're specifically referring to the 1930s and 40s. Here's something to help you, seeing as how you're struggling to grasp the concept: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Nazi.
And another thing, are you actually saying that the Labour Party are racist towards white people? Gosh, maybe you should warn the unsuspecting white members of the Labour Party about this 'fact'. I noticed that you do not mention the Conservative Party in this regard - why is that?
Prickly Pear (who is still undecided about which party she is going to vote for, but knows for sure which parties she is NOT going to vote for)  |
1 May 10, 8:30 PM
Doghouse_Reilly
UK(MK), 6 yrs
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swhackford wrote:
It seems that it is impossible to mention Nick Griffin without mentioning holocaust denial. The Holocaust is history, and the world has moved on from then, so it seems utterly pointless to keep bringing it up.
It seems that nobody wants to debate the actual issues of immigration or multiculturalism without constantly referring to the Nazi era. Why is this?
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Out of interest, which do you think is worse, Jews or blacks? Science isn't about why, it's about why not. You ask: Why is so much of our science dangerous? I say: Why not marry safe science if you love it so much.
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1 May 10, 8:40 PM
swhackford
3 yrs |
Doghouse_Reilly wrote:
swhackford wrote:
It seems that it is impossible to mention Nick Griffin without mentioning holocaust denial. The Holocaust is history, and the world has moved on from then, so it seems utterly pointless to keep bringing it up.
It seems that nobody wants to debate the actual issues of immigration or multiculturalism without constantly referring to the Nazi era. Why is this?
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Out of interest, which do you think is worse, Jews or blacks?
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Out of interest, do you think BNP voters should be hung from lamp posts, or do you think they should be put in camps, worked to death, and then gassed in fake showers? (In the name of tolerance) |
1 May 10, 8:43 PM
Jezzebelle
UK, 10 yrs
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What makes me laugh is them putting our their flags for St Georges day when St George was born in Turkey! http://www.flickr.com/photos/jezzebelle/
Dreaming permits each and every one of us to be quietly and safely insane every night of our lives.
- William Dement
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1 May 10, 8:53 PM
TheSilverFox
UK(GU), 2 yrs
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swhackford wrote:
Doghouse_Reilly wrote:
swhackford wrote:
It seems that it is impossible to mention Nick Griffin without mentioning holocaust denial. The Holocaust is history, and the world has moved on from then, so it seems utterly pointless to keep bringing it up.
It seems that nobody wants to debate the actual issues of immigration or multiculturalism without constantly referring to the Nazi era. Why is this?
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Out of interest, which do you think is worse, Jews or blacks?
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Out of interest, do you think BNP voters should be hung from lamp posts, or do you think they should be put in camps, worked to death, and then gassed in fake showers? (In the name of tolerance)
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None... They have the right to vote the same as everybody else and the right to express their political view. Tat is the freedom of this country. That is what disappears with extremist governments of any type. "The art of being a Gentleman is knowing when not to be"
Quote:TheSilverFox - Circa 1986
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1 May 10, 9:19 PM
AKAele
UK, 2 yrs
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swhackford wrote:
TheSilverFox wrote:
swhackford wrote:
RatherSplendidParty wrote:
RatherSplendidParty wrote:
swhackford wrote:
RatherSplendidParty wrote:
swhackford wrote:
Is that a myth or a fact? Again, I am slightly mystified by that, as 'cunt' is a colloquial term for the female genital opening, or did you mean that in a perjorative sense?
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I meant it in the sense that I don't care and you do so I don't need to explain my venacular but you feel the need to justify wasting your vote on a man who is so proud to be British that he wishes we lost WWII.
My grandfather voted against Nazism with a bren gun.
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I think your grandfather was voting against the UK being invaded and colonised by foreigners with his Bren gun. I wonder how he would feel about our current regime giving them council houses, and if he saw what was happening now, would he feel that the sacrifice he made to prevent our country being invaded and colonised by foreign cultures was worth it.
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My grandfather was an Irish guard, i.e., he was foreign and fought to defend this country for the sheer hell of it.
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You just don't get it do you? My grandfather was IRISH!!! He was a foreigner!!!
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Northern Ireland, from where the Irish Guards are recruited, is part of the United Kingdom.
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Get your facts right...
" [The Irish Guards] it is one of only two purely Irish regiments in the British Army (the other being the Royal Irish Regiment). It recruits Catholics and Protestants alike in Northern Ireland, the Irish neighbourhoods of major British cities, and (unofficially) the Republic of Ireland. The Republic of Ireland permits its citizens to enlist in the British forces, but forbids active recruiting in the Republic by the British Armed Forces."
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I still wonder if he would have bothered to fight if he had known that a Labour Government would be elected 50 years later, with an agenda of allowing the UK to be overrun by foreign cultures, which would systematically destroy all the rights and freedoms he fought so bravely for. He probably would have chucked his gun away and gone home. I know I would have.
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He does have a point here..and I have no issues at all with anyone who wants to come and live in the UK whatever their ethnic background...I did have an issue with our troops being abused when they came back from the middle -east. I would happily put the perpetrators of that on a boat back to where they came from and am not ashamed to say it. I object to being told it's not PC to fly the british flag and that like my US colleagues it may soon be necessary to send a 'Merry holiday' card at christmas in case I offend someone.
And no I won't be voting BNP but I am sick to the back teeth of hearing the 'facsist' finger pointing bleaters every time someone dares to defend british culture.
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1 May 10, 9:25 PM
MistressBloke
5 yrs |
swhackford wrote:
RatherSplendidParty wrote:
RatherSplendidParty wrote:
swhackford wrote:
RatherSplendidParty wrote:
swhackford wrote:
Is that a myth or a fact? Again, I am slightly mystified by that, as 'cunt' is a colloquial term for the female genital opening, or did you mean that in a perjorative sense?
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I meant it in the sense that I don't care and you do so I don't need to explain my venacular but you feel the need to justify wasting your vote on a man who is so proud to be British that he wishes we lost WWII.
My grandfather voted against Nazism with a bren gun.
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I think your grandfather was voting against the UK being invaded and colonised by foreigners with his Bren gun. I wonder how he would feel about our current regime giving them council houses, and if he saw what was happening now, would he feel that the sacrifice he made to prevent our country being invaded and colonised by foreign cultures was worth it.
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My grandfather was an Irish guard, i.e., he was foreign and fought to defend this country for the sheer hell of it.
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You just don't get it do you? My grandfather was IRISH!!! He was a foreigner!!!
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Northern Ireland, from where the Irish Guards are recruited, is part of the United Kingdom.
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So now you're telling me where my Grandad was born? He was from Eire - he was Irish through and through. He was a foreigner.
My grandad was in the IRA when they were a standing army but they shot him in the arse by mistake so he joined the Irish guards for a living and got shot through the head by the Hermann Goring Parachute Regiment.
He's listed as dead in one chapter of The Irish Guards in WWII but reappears a few chapters later wearing a Rab C. Nessbit bandage and lying on a bren gun in an ambulance in no-man's land while they're collecting dead.
Given that at one stage he was wholeheartedly against the British I think it's likely to assume that the rise of Nazism in Europe was a bit of an epiphany for my dear Grandad and he decided to vote against it with all his piff and vinegar.
He wasn't fighting against immigration, as you would put on him, the Irish guards fought alongside the French Foreign Legion, and loved them, they treated Italian prisoners nice, they weren't pathetic little Hitler Englanders like you so don't you put your own base thoughts upon them. "I am not an atomic playboy" - Vice Admiral W.H.R. Blandy Commander of the Bikini Test
Edited 1 May 10, 9:48 PM by MistressBloke
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1 May 10, 10:41 PM
x_bec_x
4 yrs |
the bnp and anyone who makes excuses for voting for them are inhuman picklebrained idiots with hatred galore in their stone cold hearts...
SHIT I FORGOT TO TAKE MY MICROPHONE OFF!! WHAT A DISASTER!! i don't appreciate you creeping up on me like a dog at a disco...
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1 May 10, 10:50 PM
MistressBloke
5 yrs |
x_bec_x wrote:
the bnp and anyone who makes excuses for voting for them are inhuman picklebrained idiots with hatred galore in their stone cold hearts...
SHIT I FORGOT TO TAKE MY MICROPHONE OFF!! WHAT A DISASTER!!
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They are long and cylindrical and they are attached to nozzles which are donut shaped, and they float on the edge of reality, and they have prongs which attach them to reality, and they float on the edge of reality, and they are higher beings, and one day we will meet them, one day we will, yes I think so, when we are ready.
That's what I'd call a well thought out policy as regards higher beings and the BNP can suck on my nozzle. "I am not an atomic playboy" - Vice Admiral W.H.R. Blandy Commander of the Bikini Test
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