Extreme Restraints - credit card warning. (41)

I think the message is here.. just be aware... tis a fact of life that there are dishonest people in the world. Probably one person letting down the organisation again.

"The art of being a Gentleman is knowing when not to be" Quote:TheSilverFox - Circa 1986

quite probably, so lets run them out of business by accusing them of fraud on the internet eh?

And all men kill the thing they love, By all let this be heard, Some do it with a bitter look, Some with a flattering word, The coward does it with a kiss, The brave man with a sword!

You give you're card details to a company 6000 miles away, then shortly afterwards your card gets used in place just around the corner from the company you initially gave the details to.

And then the card issuer confirms that it's been used fraudulently.

Whoaa - stop there Sherlock. I think we can work that one out for ourselves

Edited 8 Apr 10, 2:46 PM by Arthur_Biscuit

You do know that California is much bigger than the UK, right? If Sherlock Holmes convicted his suspects on the basis that they are located within the same 164,000 square mile area as the crime, then he'd be a crap detective.

It is a very serious allegation to make. I'm sure your intentions are nothing but noble, and I'm sure that your profile isn't connected in any way to corporate sock-puppetry, but an accusation like this on a public forum could easily be construed as deliberate sabotage of someone's business. This thread had almost certainly had an adverse effect on their sales.

Card fraud goes on everywhere in the world, and your details could have been cloned at any time, from any possible source, and even if this particular transaction is somehow connected to the theft of your details, it's unlikely to have been anyone directly involved with Extreme Restraints. To accuse owners or employees of a crime without any solid evidence is potentially libellous.

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No culpability proven beyond all reasonable doubt but, in the balance of probabilities, I would be concerned about trusting the organisation with my data. They may not have done anything malicious THEMSELVES, but may simply not have handled the info with due diligence. If it quacks like a duck and waddles like a duck, chances are it's a duck. (or a moorhen)

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You must shout "Look out, there are llamas"

But at least it's not stationery..

Nicki

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Snap and a customs charge to boot!

From this time forward, you will service us.

Just have to speak again on this issue.

If I shop at a shell service station and my card is swiped by the employee, do I not ever use Shell Serive stations again? Of course not, because I'm able to distinguish between an indiuvidual and a corporation. Or perhaps I order a computer from dell and it is dropped by the delivery company... do I never buy a computer from dell again? Or course not, because I can distinguish between one company and a third party. Or say I order something from a company online and my card details are leaked by someone at their card processor, do I... oh wait, that could be this situation, couldn't it.

I'm sure the two probably are related, not saying you are wrong...... but there are many people who could be responsible, to lay the blame at the entity closest to you might perhaps be a little premature without more information.

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Edited 9 Apr 10, 12:58 AM by revengingangel

Moorhen indeed. There's just as much chance that a hacker or phisher has yoinked the card details from the OP's own terminal, ER's third party payment processor, or even from a high street cashpoint.

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