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What is IC still for ? (39)

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Fri 19 Mar 10, 3:13 PM
Sorceror
UK(HU), 9 yrs
Having seen the constructive, pleasant and civilised debate the last such query engendered I thought I would reignite the fire...

So there is a clear answer "not for witless trolling otherwise the site would become Collarme".

But otherwise ?

Those who decry the identification of the site as a dating site may be being unrealistic. I suspect that most people here have used the site to find other people for "intimate social activities" at some point. Note the word - MOST , there will be exceptions.

I also know of no more comprehensive listing for UK scene events anywhere on the net.

It's as a social site that I think that there is room for debate. Paraphrasing Kipling "What can those know of BDSM that only BDSM know ?". Other than some fresh blood brought onto the scene by political or media developments there is a limit about what can be said about BDSM - and pity the poor newbie who asks a question that was fully explored and archived six months ago (and six weeks ago, and six days ago). There is some argument that 90% of IC posts are "Goth on a Bus" (in-joke designed to pointlessly exclude newbies).

I do miss the Non BDSM Web Boards. Let's face it if you go to a Munch or a club most of the time you may be talking about stuff other than BDSM. So why bar it here ? If we are to be a social site as well as a dating site and a community site topics should not be limited to BDSM. I think there need to be four hard limits though: -

1) No politics (other than on BDSM Activism WHERE RELEVANT)

2) No religion

3) No pissing off Admin

4) No trolling

Posts that breach any of the above will get pulled.

I think the site would benefit from allowing a broader spectrum of human experience to be displayed here. And if you don't want the non-BDSM posts, then you don't have to read them.

S.x.

Edited Fri 19 Mar 10, 3:48 PM by Sorceror

19 Mar 10, 3:48 PM
free_the_ballboy_1
UK(G), 5 yrs

I don't expect many people would come on IC to debate with others about 'religion'. I'm intersted why you would ban religion as a topic of debate on IC when religion and spirituality have pretty wide definitions and surely form a small part of the wider human experiences you'd like to see IC members chatting about.
19 Mar 10, 3:49 PM
shit_sub
UK(W), 5 yrs
there seem to me to be a lot fewer kinky threads. like, about techniques and experience and stuff. i miss them. but perhaps i'm not looking in the right place.

still, i've tried to right the balance. i started a prostate milking thread this avo. just doing my bit for the greater good, you know.

some days it's hardly worth chewing through the leather straps

Edited 19 Mar 10, 3:54 PM by shit_sub

19 Mar 10, 3:49 PM
shit_sub
UK(W), 5 yrs
realgonesub wrote:
I don't expect many people would come on IC to debate with others about 'religion'. I'm intersted why you would ban religion as a topic of debate on IC when religion and spirituality have pretty wide definitions and surely form a small part of the wider human experiences you'd like to see IC members chatting about.

quite.

politics and religion is just exactly what @Informed_Debate is for :)

some days it's hardly worth chewing through the leather straps

19 Mar 10, 4:05 PM
Sorceror
UK(HU), 9 yrs
realgonesub wrote:
I don't expect many people would come on IC to debate with others about 'religion'. I'm intersted why you would ban religion as a topic of debate on IC when religion and spirituality have pretty wide definitions and surely form a small part of the wider human experiences you'd like to see IC members chatting about.

Normal social etiqutte says "don't discuss politics or religion in mixed company". The reason being that both encompass people's fundamental views, that most when subjected to any type of logical analysis are fundamentally incompatible, and that historically politics and religion have lead to more hatred and bloodshed than just about any other factors.

People tend not to be SO vehement over whether True Blood is the greatest vampire based series ever. Close maybe...

S.x.

19 Mar 10, 4:07 PM
shit_sub
UK(W), 5 yrs
Sorceror wrote:
Normal social etiqutte says "don't discuss politics or religion in mixed company". The reason being that both encompass people's fundamental views...

no, the reason being that the pwetty little ladies heads might explode.

politics and religion are fine with cigars and brandy.

some days it's hardly worth chewing through the leather straps

Edited 19 Mar 10, 4:08 PM by shit_sub

19 Mar 10, 4:09 PM
rehtael_ni_dal*
UK(G), 9 yrs
psycheee wrote:
realgonesub wrote:
I don't expect many people would come on IC to debate with others about 'religion'. I'm intersted why you would ban religion as a topic of debate on IC when religion and spirituality have pretty wide definitions and surely form a small part of the wider human experiences you'd like to see IC members chatting about.

quite.

politics and religion is just exactly what @Informed_Debate is for :)

Religion, politics and BDSM are not mutually exclusive.

Politics and BDSM are generaly included in BDSM Activism board. May include 'MP in Self bondage Shock' without trying to sound like a NOTW editor !

The same can be said about religion and BDSM. I can think of a few topics ie Can a BDSMer be a Christian, Jew...ect or self flagellation in the Roman Catholic Church....

My spin on IC is a forum for people involved or interested in any branch of the BDSM tree to discuss, learn and share in a wide range of topics that effect the BDSM world.

As RGS said - wide ranging definations for a wide range of people.

19 Mar 10, 4:19 PM
free_the_ballboy_1
UK(G), 5 yrs

The person who told me all about clubs and munches existing in Scotland and helped me get a lift to my first ever club is someone whose religious views would be at the opposite end of the spectrum to my own. I always appreciated them looking out for me in my early days on the scene and our opposing religious views weren't a problem to us enjoying the same munches, clubs or getting on fine on a personal level.
19 Mar 10, 8:32 PM
Admin
UK, 14 yrs
Sorceror wrote:
Let's face it if you go to a Munch or a club most of the time you may be talking about stuff other than BDSM. So why bar it here ? If we are to be a social site as well as a dating site and a community site topics should not be limited to BDSM.

Are you not aware of the groups? http://www.informedconsent.co.uk/groups/

(and the weblogs for the matter.)

Admin

Remember: it's only a website :)

19 Mar 10, 8:33 PM
strongarm
CH, 6 yrs
psycheee wrote:
Sorceror wrote:
Normal social etiqutte says "don't discuss politics or religion in mixed company". The reason being that both encompass people's fundamental views...

no, the reason being that the pwetty little ladies heads might explode.

politics and religion are fine with cigars and brandy.

No, no. The pwetty ladies' heads only explode when one milks their G-spots with or without a cigar. Ooooh, glub.

19 Mar 10, 8:40 PM
bloodlineS
UK(SK), 8 yrs
Sorceror wrote:
It's as a social site that I think that there is room for debate. Paraphrasing Kipling "What can those know of BDSM that only BDSM know ?". Other than some fresh blood brought onto the scene by political or media developments there is a limit about what can be said about BDSM - and pity the poor newbie who asks a question that was fully explored and archived six months ago (and six weeks ago, and six days ago).

I was thinking something along these lines a while back; that without concious thought I'd become very bored of a lot of the chatter that goes on in BDSM forums but that that was fine.

It's the nature of this thing that people are constantly discovering it and want to talk about it and ask the inflamatory questions and explore these things anew. That doesn't mean I have to flame them and point out it was explored X days ago. So I feel it's good that IC exists and whilst sometimes I wish the direction from above was clearer on some points in some ways it self regulates and yet is still formed by its own overall shape.

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