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| 19 Mar 10, 5:55 PM MariaB UK(GU), 6 yrs   |
They can identify as whatever they want to be.
Sexually they usually like to live on the edge. That could be dominantly or submissively. Our new web site www.edgeplay.co.uk | ||
| 19 Mar 10, 6:25 PM totallycoverme UK(M), 4 yrs |
that list is helpful and scarily correlates with some nutters I've met in my time. I shall test every potential dom against that list now lol It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice | ||
| 19 Mar 10, 7:26 PM MariaB UK(GU), 6 yrs |
The problem with lists is it can make us paranoid if we are not careful.
If you read the list you will see someone in each category. You will possibly even see yourself with one or two of the traits but that doesn't mean you or they are sociopaths. Someone could have all those traits and still not be a sociopath. Only the person without a conscience really knows how he/she is
The chances are, we all know a sociopath or two. Its not that uncommon but tends to be more common in men than in women. If alarm bells start ringing then get out. These people can not be cured.
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| 20 Mar 10, 12:08 AM ClassAct2005 UK(N), 7 yrs |
I don't think it's that hard to spot. Why can't anyone see most of those factors below from the link on the first post? Surely you can see lack of ampahty, laying, over sense of self worth, parasitic life style. You just view their past, talk to them, watch how they relate to you. If they have no long term goals etc they are going to have not much success in life, probably no career or assets, no history of loving long term relationships and have probably fallen out with just about everyone they've met. Isn't that relatively easy to spot? Factor1: Personality "Aggressive narcissism" * Glibness/superficial charm * Grandiose sense of self-worth * Pathological lying * Cunning/manipulative * Lack of remorse or guilt * Shallow affect * Callous/lack of empathy * Failure to accept responsibility for own actions Factor2: Case history "Socially deviant lifestyle". * Need for stimulation/proneness to boredom * Parasitic lifestyle * Poor behavioral control * Promiscuous sexual behavior * Lack of realistic long-term goals * Impulsivity * Irresponsibility * Juvenile delinquency * Early behavior problems * Revocation of conditional release
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| 20 Mar 10, 1:44 PM Mad_Monk UK(BH), 4 yrs |
Agreed, huge overlaps between the two; the difference seeming to be in the MO. Psychopaths are aggressively and self-destructively antisocial, making no effort to disguise their behaviour - flaunting it even. Sociopaths hiding their self-serving in a cloak of apparent gregariousness and assertiveness whilst building the foundations of a total control 'Dominion'. Infractions are met with cruel punishments for 'property' and savage reprisals for noncompliant 'in-comers'. One meets them in business every day. Another useful article - follow the links at the bottom: http://www.cix.co.uk/~klockstone/spath.htm "He took a single sip of her pain and found it exquisite" | ||
| 20 Mar 10, 3:47 PM Joran_h UK(LS), 6 yrs |
Late to the party I know, but I think these kind of "scoring" systems do far more harm than good. Yes, be careful with whom you pursue any kind of relationship with, but in this kind of scene where the sub /wants/ the dom to act domly, most doms will come out highly on that scale. Add various personality traits to the mix, such as for instance dyslexia, dyspraxia, anxiety disorders, depression, all of which to varying degrees and someone could easily score as "psycho". Why use someone else' isolated and impersonal judgement as to what kind of person the one you are talking to is? Do you have so little confidence you need someone else to confirm or deny that your choice is right? As to the whole "manipulative" thing, it's a word that I had huge issues with when I was younger - one of the worst insults someone could have given me was "manipulative bastard", and now it's quite a compliment. Of course, being in the niche I'm in, I have a fair bit of psychology training, and can rip apart the scoreboards, and probably deliberately score almost everyone I know as a psycho. So, to sum up, only use the charts if you're using parts of them to augment your internal charts and yep, I'm a manipulative bastard, and can if I want to by using "interesting reasoning" score up to top marks on that score, but I'm not a psycho. -- | ||
| 20 Mar 10, 4:00 PM SinPar US, 12 yrs |
My tip-off in people to avoid is a lack of the ability to accept responsibility for their actions. Dominant or submissive, when I see that pattern it's time to back away quickly. You might also like this article I found in a friend's blog on the topic of psychopaths, if you didn't see it on Hare's website already: http://www.hare.org/links/saturday.html SinPar -- The weak are the most treacherous of us all. They come to the strong and drain them. They are bottomless. They are insatiable. They are always parched and always bitter. They are everyone's concern, and like vampires they suck our life's blood. (Bette Davis) | ||
| 22 Mar 10, 6:08 PM MariaB UK(GU), 6 yrs |
I second that. As for being able to spot other things easily, don't kid yourself. Sociopaths can convince you that they love you, that they are caring, that they don't lie, that they have feelings and the intelligent ones have the ability to get away with just about anything. You only need to google 'being in love with a sociopath' and you will find column after column of intelligent and independent people that have unwittingly fallen victim. Please don't insult these men and women by saying they should of seen it coming.
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