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on Tue 16 Mar 10, 12:29 PM to Trussedworthy's blog.
Interesting to see what the experts can do..
http://www.glennferon.com/portfolio1/index.html
| 16 Mar 10, 12:45 PM Ro_Laren UK(S), 3 yrs |
Heaven forbid that a person's body is not perfect! Yuck to those pictures. They're not real and they only serve to make normal men and women feel they look 'wrong'. 'We cannot choose what we are, yet what are we but the sum of our choices?' | |
| 16 Mar 10, 12:48 PM Manteau UK(S), 2 yrs |
I have mixed feelings about major re-touching. Some of those samples on the opening page would have been better if the initial shot had been done properly, with correct lighting and correct composition. I'm reminded of the famous Kate Winslet shot where she 'lost' about two stone, gained an extra foot in her leg length, and flawless skin..Great if it's as intended; selling an impossible dream, but a crushing disappointment if you go to meet gods gift and find they're far from what they portrayed. Darkroom gods managed to dodge and burn acceptable shots to get the effect they were after, long before digital capture, but I fear we've now moved more and more to getting a frankly rubbish shot and trying to make it into a silk purse. Burn off a 100 frames of film it costs money; a thousend digital shots cost sod all, but the 'hit rate' will often be far worse in the digital set up. I know it sounds all very poo poo and negative, but I'm a bit of a purist (read: old fashioned!) with photography.
Suffering becomes beautiful when anyone bears great Calamities with cheerfulness, not through insensibility but through greatness of mind.
Aristotle Edited 16 Mar 10, 12:50 PM by Manteau | |
| 16 Mar 10, 1:36 PM steelhouse UK(E), 11 yrs |
Retouching has its uses, in the 80's I did a shoot with Vauxhall for their new Senator model (God that was years ago,I feel ancient) and they supplied a white car and we had to retouch the shots for the whole colour range. I much prefer to see unretouched pics of people, but if your looking at a newspaper or magazine nowdays your never going to see one! Photo's have always been retouched, its just easier now. | |
| 16 Mar 10, 1:44 PM Manteau UK(S), 2 yrs |
Is that a high handlebar Le Mans? Mk2? I used to have one thats all... Oh god was that a money pit! Fickle, argumentative Italian bitch! But what a lay! Suffering becomes beautiful when anyone bears great Calamities with cheerfulness, not through insensibility but through greatness of mind.
Aristotle | |
| 16 Mar 10, 3:24 PM rodm99 UK(CB), 7 yrs |
I have a feeling most of the *real* experts don't neeed to have websites like that one. Technically the work's mediocre, creatively it's mostly pretty obvious, imo. 'Twosies beats onesies, but nothing beats three...' | |
| 16 Mar 10, 6:45 PM tony999 UK, 5 yrs |
Only if you have a poor self image to begin with. Advertising has always been about fantasy, the dream. It's never been about reality. Even going back to man's first cave drawings. The willies and boobs where chalkshopped even back then.
And what about that chalk man in Wiltshire or wherever it is? I feel SO inadequate. Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness, that most frightens us. Edited 16 Mar 10, 6:50 PM by tony999 | |
| 16 Mar 10, 9:09 PM MarkVarley  UK(PE), 7 yrs |
most of those really ought to have been photographed properly in the first place... Mark | |
| 16 Mar 10, 11:03 PM clare 11 yrs |
But the pictures of a girl drinking piss from a baby bottle are right up my street. Edited 16 Mar 10, 11:04 PM by clare | |
| 16 Mar 10, 11:17 PM Trussedworthy UK(NW), 6 yrs |
The guy isn't a photographer, he's a professional retoucher.
He's trying to sell his services, what do you expect his site to look like? Whether for commercial publication or just because some people are vain I can't see much wrong with making people who don't use sunbeds, fake tan, personal trainers, gym memberships, teeth whiteners, wrinkle creams, hair restorers or even makeup look like they have if that's what they want. Of course the purists have a point about taking a better photo in the first place, Rod and Mark you're both very good indeed, but for those who don't have the time, skill or equipment to achieve those results, well good luck to them if a quick run through software can boost their results. Photography, like art, is a subjective thing, we all have our favourites. Personally I do like very glossy, polished, colourful work which is probably a combination of good photography and a fair bit of post-photo processing. Typically I'd love to be able to achieve the type of results produced by Suze Randall or James Bertoni. If we're talking about less for the web and more purist I also liked the work of Bob Carlos Clarke and Helmut Newton.
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