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| Mon 15 Mar 10, 3:40 PM Scorchio 7 yrs |
...But are bloody stubborn, like myself, not wanting to give in, what sort of things do you tell yourself whilst receiving that pain? What motivates you to endure? Ok and before anyone says "But it's not about being stubborn or winning!" Well some of us like to push ourselves and that's that! For me pride comes into it, I hate to lose. At anything. I hate to be beaten. Well no, I don't, but you get my meaning. A couple of things I tell myself... "Ok mate, this really hurts! I won't lie to you... fuck it hurts. But think of the natural high you'll soon have!" "Right, you're not going to die, it's just a state of mind. Control your emotions, you'll be fine." So, you don't like pain but you're stubborn. How do you cope?
Clean slates and all that jazz... | ||||
| 15 Mar 10, 3:51 PM Scorchio 7 yrs |
Agreed, endurance is key, and from that the natural high is intensified even more so for having endured. That lovely spaced-out state from having taken a lot of pain, and the feeling of closeness that follows towards the person that provided the pain. I think so many people miss out on this, tragically, because they fail to push themselves to endure the pain in the first place. But maybe that's just me. Clean slates and all that jazz... | ||||
| 15 Mar 10, 3:51 PM Lord_Gobbimort UK(LU), 5 yrs |
Im not sure if anyone really likes the pain as such. I love what the pain does, love the fact that someone gets off on it, love the spacy hugs after! As to stubborness, some times as a sub i think that you need to holdout and fight to not break. but if you meet the Dom/me, then they will overcome this and you can then happily give in to them. | ||||
| 15 Mar 10, 3:53 PM mini_velvet UK(EH), 6 yrs |
I loathe pain but love the pleasure it brings my partner when I endure it for them. I always tell people I'm rubbish with pain but they always say I'm much better at receiving it than I say I am. Oh and that I suffer beautifully. I love the smell of sexual napalm in the morning. | ||||
| 15 Mar 10, 4:05 PM Scorchio 7 yrs |
Oh people do, trust me. I've been wrongly labelled a masochist in the past, when in reality I'm just stubborn and I crave the natural high that follows. There's a big difference... Clean slates and all that jazz... | ||||
| 15 Mar 10, 4:13 PM Lord_Gobbimort UK(LU), 5 yrs |
That is a masochist tho! I like the feeling of being hit and dig the pain, but what gets me places is the chemical effect from that pain. | ||||
| 15 Mar 10, 4:22 PM Scorchio 7 yrs |
No, it isn't. A masochist actively seeks pain itself, regardless of what the after effects may be. It is the pain they crave. I crave the after effects of that pain, the natural high. That is the difference. Clean slates and all that jazz... | ||||
| 15 Mar 10, 4:24 PM Miss_Poppins UK(RG), 2 yrs |
I think there isn't 'the pain', but so many different forms of it. Spanking is 'good' and intimate pain that makes me feel close to my partner and I absolutely love it. If it's too hard too soon I keep telling myself not to focus on the moment he hits me but the second after, I try to breathe regularly and think of the pleasure this means for him. A caning I absolutely hate. It's nasty and bad and I don't want it This basically results in three stages; nice pain I simply enjoy and focus on the great warm feeling, not so nice pain becomes acceptable when I focus on my partner and really bad pain just has to be endured, cried out and rewarded later. Sometimes distraction helps as well. If I get to kiss a beautiful girl while receiving pain and if she holds my hand to support me I experience this amazing balance of terrible pain and beauty. Hab keine Angst, einen großen Schritt zu machen, wenn dies nötig ist. Ein Abgrund lässt sich nicht mit zwei kleinen Sprüngen überqueren (David Lloyd George). | ||||
| 15 Mar 10, 4:29 PM Lord_Gobbimort UK(LU), 5 yrs |
I agree to dsagree | ||||
| 15 Mar 10, 4:37 PM electronic_doll UK(SW), 3 yrs £ |
What she said. The endurance is a battle of wills, usually me versus my own ability to take the pain rather than me versus the Dom (that would be rude...) It really depends on the type and quality of pain as well as the context. Sometimes I can take a lot, sometimes I can't. Sometimes I find enjoyment (whether that's as a nice sensation or just from the rollercoaster adrenaline high of it) in things that on other days I just plain hate. There's a lot of different things that can help - but again, they vary. Screaming is one, as is growling: if I'm feeling quite animalistic I might kick and buck a bit whereas if I'm more submissive I'd probably try and stay put and be "good". Knowing that there are a finite number of strokes, so counting down, does help. Someone talking to me helps, or sometimes I just talk to myself, in my own head, little words of encouragement... A lot like running at the gym, come to think of it. Another 1km, then another, then another, breaking it down into pieces.
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| 15 Mar 10, 4:52 PM Jayed UK(S), 8 yrs |
It is essentially about how the body attunes itself to the reception of the implement. The nerves are reacting naturally to the penetration of the receptors on the surface of the flesh. This is unpleasant - and what we mean by pain. But if that is understood and the fearful thoughts that arise can be assuaged by the knowledge that once these initial effects are endured then more pleasurable experiences will follow. The body will naturally adjust and release the chemicals into the brain that enable us to cope. If the pain is applied skilfully - and we should always play with skilful Tops - then the body can adjust to the application of the implement in such a way that it floods the brain. This flooding creates the natural high that the true painslut craves. It is much more than the psychological need to please someone else - though that bit is good too (I love seeing a Top turned on). In reality, a painslut gains so much more from a beating than a Top, because of this visceral effect. The cane is my favourite implement (in fact all I'm interested in) and its controlled application perfect for building beyond the initial reactions to the later effects. jayed |