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| 7 Mar 10, 4:05 PM Heroine_London UK(E), 2 yrs  |
Especially the collars
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| 7 Mar 10, 4:06 PM MissKimberley_1 NL, 2 yrs £  |
Oh double entendre, hadn't even noticed that. I must be thinking of collars with raging hormones ... too much sunlight. *insert silly text or moneymaking link of choice here* | ||
| 7 Mar 10, 4:11 PM mistyblue 9 yrs |
Well said LovingLord. I'm not defining every woman's role as being submissive. It's a culture thing with me. My mother was a submissive in the sense that my father made the decisions. Yes, my father had secrets too which my mother didn't know about, and which as I found out, made me worry about the way things might be when she did. But it was how I was brought up. They were equal and yet different, each respected and dignified the other. And it was fine by me. And yes, women were definitely women in my growing years. I know things have changed, but it's so much a part of me. I'm not knocking it, it's just that my informative years made me in a very real way who I am today .. submissive by nature. But that doesn't make me less-than. I'm open enough to respect differing points of view and the very different dynamics in relationships which is what it boils down to. to be a submissive is truly living the dream ... | ||
| 7 Mar 10, 5:33 PM friendly_Paradox UK(NN), 6 yrs |
No it isn't uncomfortable nor does it take any soul searching. That's just my point. It isn't difficult to create a relationship in which the male adopts and applies the "old fashioned values" and yet is still the submissive. I merely note that so many appear to suggest that protective responsibility and domination are intrinsically linked and in my experience they need not be. | ||
| 7 Mar 10, 5:47 PM ClassAct2005 UK(N), 7 yrs |
I don't think it's an age thing though. My mother's grandmother had 17 children, worked and I bet was pretty much in charge. My mother's mother was widowed and left with a baby in the 20s and always had to work. My mother wouldn't have let me father take charge for one second 1960s or not and he was a pretty new man for those days, dealt with the babies int he night, wielded the hoover etc and I would never have tolerated sexism in my own marriage and was very lucky that it wasn't there. So that's a history of strong women over nearly 100 years but that doesn't change my underlying innate submissiveness which is just my sexuality just as some women are born gay or dominant or neither. And then where I live there ar huge numbers of cultures where women have no rights at all and men take all decisions and even baby girls are aborted. Some of those cuulture are awful and the sooner the women start knowing what them en earn and even outearning them the better. I don't think the conflation of misty eyed supposed 1950s values (when womena t home were really fed up because after the war they were turfed out of their jobs so they had to take valium and drink to stay sane) with issues of D/s is helpful.
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| 11 Mar 10, 5:44 AM Milchvienhalter US, 2 yrs |
I always get a good giggle from threads that deal with "in the old days". Especially since 'old' is such a relative term depeding upon the ages of the people involved. For instance, what if some 'old' codger from pre-1940 was on the boards reading this. He'd have quite the laugh because when it came to financial things in those days there was quite a difference in how family financial matters were sorted. WORKING CLASS males brought home their pay, put it into their wives hands and the wife then gave their husband an allowance. Even though women couldn't vote, take out credit or even open banking accounts in their own names they handled ALL the families financial dealings. The husband was just there to sign the necessary papers when needed. And since "in those days" so much was still not automated the population numbers of the working class was a far greater percentage of the population than the trading class, professional class and upper class put together. Thus this was NORMAL societal behaviour not D/s or F/m or any silly arsed nonsense relating to an "alternative lifestyle". The reason things were done this way was because in those days working class males didn't have the time to deal with money issues. They weren't working 8 hour days or 10 hour days but rather 14 to 16 hour days and doing so 6 days a week. For the other classes the money was handled in many different ways between the sexes depending upon the specific circumstances of the individuals involved. | ||
| 11 Mar 10, 7:21 AM ClassAct2005 UK(N), 7 yrs |
Yes, as I said above or on another thread recently that happened and still does in Japan where a stay at home wife doles out pocket money to a man. I think from history most people can find what they're after whether it's women or men in charge and if that makes you feel better that's great as long as people (as some religions and cultures have done) so not then suggest because XYZ is natural then it is only right and proper for all men and women. |
