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Chloroform Play (53)

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27 Feb 10, 1:47 PM
Bazinga_Punk
UK(CM), 4 yrs
Chainedupsub wrote:
i like this idea as well but after reading the post not to sure . Is there a safer way to be knocked out ?

Call Mike Tyson a big gay bear. Would be very quick.

27 Feb 10, 1:49 PM
pseudonym739
UK, 3 yrs
Hahaha nice faux pas there. I enjoyed it. I'd probably just end up drawing a cock on your face ;)

Daniel_2009 wrote:
pseudonym739 wrote:
Daniel_2009 wrote:
Somethings are best left as fantasy, although I would love to be drugged and wake up all tied up, dying for that however, is not really worth it.

Just have someone get you trashed enough so you pass out, and then instead of the usual cock-on-forehead-drawing, they can tie you up! Sex is clearly the best cure for a hangover in any case.

Is that an offer...

27 Feb 10, 2:16 PM
BrianC
UK(TQ), 6 yrs

Chloroform (or ether, for that matter) play cannot be SSC. It could just be RACK as long as both parties fully understand the R bit. However, the risks are considerable, and include sudden death and a range of serious reactions that don't quite kill you but could leave permanent damage. Any significant adverse event would require emergency services. Serious complications would inevitably involve the police. Death would of course look like murder, so would involve the media and a trial. This is all life-ruining stuff for both parties.

I would never use volatile organic solvents on humans without the presence of a consultant anaesthetist and a full set of emergency resuscitation equipment. That means I would never risk it in real life. The risks are just too great and too unpredictable.

27 Feb 10, 3:48 PM
Lady_Anna_Bradford
UK(BD), 5 yrs

Chainedupsub wrote:
i like this idea as well but after reading the post not to sure . Is there a safer way to be knocked out ?

I've already answered that question.

"If no sexual offence is being committed it seems very odd indeed that there should be an offence for having an image of something which was not an offence," Lord Wallace of Tankerness
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27 Feb 10, 4:16 PM
Darkmoon
UK, 6 yrs
I think the fantasy would be better than the reality in this instance and it begs the question where would you obtain it anyway.
27 Feb 10, 5:47 PM
Xemxija
UK(ME), 2 yrs
Lady_Anna_Bradford wrote:
rubesque wrote:
Has anyone found anything more stable than chloroform, that gives somewhat similar effects?

Yes. Ethyl Chloride.

Or chloroethane to give its correct IUPAC name ;)

27 Feb 10, 6:01 PM
luscious1
UK(BS), 11 yrs
The fantasy is lovely, but chloroform is just too dangerous to use safely. Both myself and my partner (medically trained) adore breath play and use nitrous oxide to achieve similar sensations and feelings of loss of control. This though is built upon years of knowledge and experience from both of us. However, I would not recommend any type of anesthesia play unless the Dominant has a the relevant medical training. Even then you need to both be aware of the risks involved and the ramifications of them.

"let's dare to be ourselves, for we do that better than anyone else can" Shirley Briggs.

4 Mar 10, 10:24 AM
maihri
UK, 8 yrs

Just to add my two penny worth- as far as I'm aware, due to its toxicity, chloroform is legally classed as a weapon. Using it on someone is the equivalent of shooting or knifing them.

A fancy way to play Russian roulette to my mind.

Maihri
"Without the darkness, how could we recognise the light?"

4 Mar 10, 10:34 AM
GilesUK
UK(SE), 2 yrs

Lady_Anna_Bradford wrote:
CarolDeeTgirl wrote:
Chloroform Play

I like to be a kidnap victim and a guy wants to 'capture' me by knocking me out with chloroform so he can tie me. The idea is very appealing but I'm cautious with any chemicals. I have never taken drugs (except alcohol of course :-) ). Can anyone advise me if chloroform is safe. Should precautions be taken? Are there any side effects? How long does it knock you out for? Are there any after effects? Any help gratefully received.

Chloroform is anything but safe. It is extremely toxic and even comes with a little skull warning on the bottle. It isn't used in hospitals any more it is that dangerous.

30% of the general population are allergic or intolerant to anaesthetic gases so you are extremely likely to vomit whilst you are unconscious. Do you trust your Dom to not panic and save your life?

To avoid vomiting I suggest you fast for 5 hours prior to play. This is extremely important.

Don't let it come into direct contact with skin.

It can take a couple of minutes to several minutes to knock you out. Your willingness to be knocked out is a huge factor as well as how quickly you progress through the stages of anaesthesia. Some people pass out fairly quickly. Some need a lot of coaching, training and persuasion to let themselves pass out.

It is important to know how much to use and not to go overboard and keep giving them more and more if they take a while to go out. The more you give them the deeper they go into unconsciousness. There are four stages of anaesthesia. Stage four is death. Always bear that in mind.

Some people will snap out of it very quickly and they will be very confused and so they need careful handling. They won't know where they are. they will have lost their memory of what you have been doing. Other people will gradually wake up from unconscious to sleeping and then slowly awakening. This gives them time for their impaired memory to catch up a bit. So I've had people take a minute to come round, others 20 mins or so.

After play your side effects can include a banging headache for the rest of the day, a feeling of nausea for a couple of days, loss of memory, flashbacks, sleepyness that can last a couple of days, a woolly head - all in any combination. Some people dont have side effects at all, but all will have some memory loss with flashbacks.

You must bear in mind that chloroform makes the heart ultra sensitive to adrenaline. Don't play with anyone with heart disease or a family of heart disease. I won't play with anyone over 60 as a precaution.

I have played with the same person roughly once a fortnight. I wouldn't be happy doing it any more often than that. Chloroform can stay in your body for a couple of days. It all depends how quickly your body processes the toxin.

Don't read my advice and think that is all you need. It isn't. I highly recommend you watch a scene before you try it. People react very differently and you have to be prepared for every eventuality. One guy nearly attacked me because he thought he was in bed at home and I was a burglar! Have someone with you who is experienced and able to deal with a lot of different scenarios. This is not a time to freak out due to inexperience or incomplete knowledge.

Something to consider: I highly highly recommend that the sub is very securely restrained to prevent injury to the Domme. Stage 2 of anaesthesia can cause confusion, distress and hallucinations. The sub could thrash around and attack. BUT: If the sub is restrained they are reliant on the Domme: not cocking up, watching out for abnormal reactions and being able to prevent the sub choking on their own vomit if they have eaten but fibbed about it.

I am a very serious edge player but thinking too much about chloroform, and what can go wrong, scares the hell out of me.

Have a look at this link for a full explanation of the stages.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_anaesthesia

I know I go to stage 3.1. As soon as they get there I bring them round by removing the chloroform or waking them up depending on how I know they react, how many times I have played with them and other clues.

This is not an activity that you can mix with drink and/or drugs. It's serious serious stuff.

Great post Lady Anna :)

Breath Deep please!!!

16 Apr 10, 3:37 PM
supacabbage
UK(NE), 2 yrs
I've read and re-read what people have said and I agree that chloroforms usage came to a gradual end due to safer drugs being developed.

However, I can't put a definitive explanation forward but I love the idea of a lady soaking that pad in a pair of leather gloved hands and me being unable to stop her. The lady steps forward and puts me under.

I know the risks, but I think visiting someone like Lady Anna would allow me to indulge a fantasy I have had since the onset of puberty. It's illogical I know given what could happen, but I want to feel what its like to have someone chloroform me. I've done roleplays and pretended to go under and done the same to others, but I really want to have that experience of the gloved hand and white cloth making me go to sleep.

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