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| Lady_Anna_Bradford |
Who gets the most pleasure? Sadists or masos?
I vote sadists ![]()
| 20 Feb 10, 1:25 PM subbietrouble 2 yrs |
Got to be masochists! You lie there and get taken through a huge range of sensations and mental experiences - pain, pleasure, arousal, fear, anticipation, exhilaration - you cry, orgasm, laugh, beg. From the sadists point of view? You hit people with things.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, I've no idea why people want to be sadists - I'm just very glad that they do! | |
| 20 Feb 10, 1:35 PM Incandescence UK, 3 yrs |
Ah, but as a sadist you get to watch (and have a right good laugh at) the masochists responses and reactions to all those things. It's bloody great As a switch though, I'd have to say that while I'm not particularly a masochist as far as pain goes, all the things that you mentioned (even the pain to a certain extent - and particularly after that barrier is passed) is bloody great too. I'm not sure I could choose which one I get more pleasure from. Probably both the same but in different ways. Off topic - I'm wonderingif it's an IC glitch that group members are able to post on the group profile before the group profile itself can post? Not that it matters, I just find it a bit strange.
But hey we're up and running now
If you're gonna fiddle, you have to be prepared to get wet! | |
| 20 Feb 10, 1:58 PM Lady_Anna_Bradford UK(BD), 5 yrs |
I think the group itself has to wait a full 7 days as does any other new profile. Our personal profiles are >7 days so that's why we can post. I haven't switched so I can't compare between the sadist and the maso but I get a huge thrill out of being the cause of the pain, the decision maker, the architect and designer of the play that I can't imagine being the passive recipient.
I think I'd be a topping from the bottom nightmare "If no sexual offence is being committed it seems very odd indeed that there should be an offence for having an image of something which was not an offence," Lord Wallace of Tankerness | |
| 20 Feb 10, 2:52 PM OllieVW 3 yrs |
The editors of Psycology Today revealed that 30% of Masochists participate in Sadistic behaviour and from my own experience i can see how that might be true. Still trying to find research that relates to Sadists participating in Masochism "dont think its quite as common". To be a Masochist "I THINK" you have to be Sadistic or have Sadistic tendencies so maybe we do have the upper hand? What Masochist hasnt sat dreaming, fantasizing about certain scenes etc... I know I do and plant the seed in the heads of those around me. Im not so sure Sadists think about "I wonder how that feels"? maybe they do? Being a Masochist i dont see the need to "PLEASE" others its about me getting as much direct pleasure from the things i like namely PAIN. Do i have more fun being a Masochist? YES, YES I do but..Ive said it so many times on other threads relating to Sadomasichism as long as i get MY pleasure im not particularly interested in wheather the other person is enjoying it. If they are which im sure they would be great. Why else would they be doing it? One thing i have noticed is its difficult to find people willing to play with Masochists and at the level they enjoy. Its not just about beating the crap out of me its about how thats done. This wasnt so important before but its realy something that makes a difference now. Alot of Sadists have said they dont enjoy playing with Masochists due to them "WANTING" or "ENJOYING" the pain/play, but i also see the flip side that Sadists can play at a higher intensity or style with a Masochist so enjoy being able to express their darker side to the full.
I cant realy compare my enjoyment to that of a Sadists as i tend to keep that part of me locked up, when it comes up i normaly end up in trouble I wonder if those who practise RACK or SSC within a Sadomasochist dynamic gain different levels of FUN. Im more inclined to enjoy play if i dont know whats going to happen, nothing has been discussed or planned. As a Masochist i dont see that i have handed over control all im asking is for pain so safewording or stopping isnt a big deal to me. I actually get a great sense of humiliation from having to. I want to be broken but hate when it happens. So do not fear, for I am with you; do not be dismayed, for I am your God. I will strengthen you and help you; I will uphold you with my righteous right hand. | |
| 20 Feb 10, 3:34 PM subbietrouble 2 yrs |
I have a double level interaction going on - while I'm enjoying it, the masochist is in full swing, loving it, wanting more - it's purely a selfish pleasure. I 'awww' if they stop. This has happened a lot with caning - I'm still loving it, but they're looking at the marks and deciding I've had enough. Once the pain gets to that level that I'm no longer enjoying it - it switches to a different dynamic - I'm doing it to please them, to let them achive release through me and my reactions - I want it to please them. I'm still glad, in a masochistic way, to take the pain, to let it break me down, but it's more of a suffering masochistic enjoyment, rather than a simple pleasure. At the moment, I'm craving to be broken. Why is it that when you want to go past your own boundaries, the boundary starts moving away from you? I'm half inclined to think it's a confidence thing - because I'm not scared of the pain, I keep discovering new levels of enjoyable pain. Or maybe it's just my inner masochist, trying to keep me from ever getting what I want! | |
| 20 Feb 10, 9:48 PM OllieVW 3 yrs |
BINGO What a great explination of how "I" like it. I dont want to know whats going to happen, when etc... i know its gonna hurt. Not knowing is the force that drives me to CRAVE it so having someone else in charge of that part makes my fun all the more pleasurable, intense, enjoyable and realy turns me on.
Lima is still finding this part difficult but i know through time and experience her need to discuss will lesson thats when i will realy hit new hights
So do not fear, for I am with you; do not be dismayed, for I am your God. I will strengthen you and help you; I will uphold you with my righteous right hand. | |
| 20 Feb 10, 11:11 PM ClearBluesEmma UK(DT), 4 yrs |
A bit of a tricky one for me as I don't have a sadistic bone in my body! 'Hopefully both' is the easy answer. From my point of view, I love playing with someone who really gets their kicks from hurting me. That the fact that they are causing me pain gives them their sexual buzz too. I'm a little like Ollie in that I generally don't want to know what's going to happen. I want to wallow in the pain and the discomfort however it comes. And there's nothing like seeing that evil grin or that sparkle that comes in their eyes when they see me suffering. There's nothing worse for me than playing with someone who's going through the motions. Hurting me because that's what I want, not what they do. Or because they think that will bring out some deep hidden submissiveness in me. I'm not submissive, and I won't 'suffer' to please someone else. I want them to look forward to the next time they see me, to ponder ways in which to make me cry, make me bleed, bring me to my knees. And when it ends I want to see my joy and exhaustion reflected on their face and body. As I said, it's best when both enjoy things :_D A sweet disorder in the dress, kindles in clothes a wantonness... | |
| 22 Feb 10, 9:03 AM Sirebel UK, 5 yrs |
I'm guessing it depends on what you get pleasure from. I don't get any pleasure from masochism so I can't measure whether I get more pleasure than her. I can say that I agree with some of the previous comments. My pleasure comes from the god like feeling of being totally in control of her emotions, pain and pleasure. I can make her do anything I want, using a combination of punishment and reward. I can make her beg, laugh, cry, orgasm, pass out and ultimately she worships me for it, even when it is only for my pleasure and not directly for hers.
A sadists life can be such a hardship at times
I don't know what's right and what's real any more | |
| 22 Feb 10, 2:15 PM MistressRouge UK(B), 6 yrs £ |
I also feel both, so a 50/50 sharing of energy.
I always enjoy those that absorb, suffer and channel My sadistic attentions. It is so refreshing & satisfying to Me, in a selfish way of course, that a masochist endures whatever I deem fit, to get My rocks off
" The only way to get rid of temptation is to yield to it. Resist it
and your soul grows sick with longing, for the things it has forbidden
itself"
Oscar Wilde | |
| 20 Mar 10, 2:08 PM FuerstvonBismarck UK(BH), 2 yrs |
WHY IN HELL should it be FOR HER PLEASURE??? see also anaiis ic site and die-erdbeerbowle.de (our adventures in the London and UK Fetish scene) follow me on twitter |