Objectification and forniphilia (20)

From a submissive's point of view, I wonder how they stop themselves from eventually becoming simply bored? It must take a fair bit of strength of mind to stay 'in the zone'. Almost a form of meditation, I would wonder?

How about the Dominants? What is going through your mind as you objectify your submissive?

So, for those that enjoy these practices and activities, can you shed further light on this?

Thanks in advance,

PK.

Edited to add a couple of interesting websites on forniphilia:

House Of Gord

Forniphilia - The Art Of Human Furniture

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Edited Thu 11 Feb 10, 11:13 AM by PiercedKnight

But if you allow yourself to experience your own objectification, it has the effect of stripping the id. You let go of all the vanities and fears that you cherish and project every second, minute, day. There's a meditative, or perhaps zen-like calm that inhabits you. There's a kind of freedom in being nothing. That's simply my understanding and perspective. I don't get the sense that it's an experience that everyone shares.

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As a top I've enjoyed making boys into laptop tables- I think I enjoy sending them into that state and yet still being free to blog and answer email!

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As humiliation play, it continues to be fun as long as the sub is still in the squirming phase, struggling to accept the reality (or even just the idea) of their predicament.

Beyond the squirming and into the acceptance phase, I guess some people may get something spiritual and meditative out of the experience, but then others just get bored. That's when it's good to mix it up a bit, say, by putting household objects up their bum, for example.

I find knowing it's going to happen to be the humiliation stage. The information and the preparation part - that's humiliating.

When it's happening is the meditative stage for me. But, because I'm inside my own psyche at that point doesn't mean there aren't outward effects of humiliation that the dominant can relate to. For example, I know I've cried throughout, even though I didn't realize I was doing so.

Being reminded later that I was used that way takes it full circle back to humiliation.

Sometimes, I think the impact of humiliation can be more powerful for both partners when it's been allowed to slowly simmer on a back burner for awhile rather than always actively boiling.

love the brave but avoid cowards, knowing the gratitude of cowards is small ~Praxilla of Sicyon

Edited 11 Feb 10, 12:05 PM by Thistle

I also enjoy the visuals of House of Gord

I have enjoyed employing a woman as an ashtray holder, but it doesn't amuse me for very long. All about timing, I would say. One might fantasise about more elaborate situations but in my experience most people find staying still for any length of time too much of a challenge! It is also possible to give someone a highly impactful experience which isn't of very long duration.

Sexual objectification :

I think this is a much larger subject. I have seen it said that a measure of objectification is actually essential to any form of sexual activity, kinky or not. Being objectified is a key plank of a submissive's experience as far as I am concerned but again for me it's all about timing, duration. Also depends a little on where people are on the curve of experience. These days I can sometimes find that too much of it creates what seems like a rather low bandwidth channel that actually attenuates my enjoyment of the full presence of the sub, instead of enhancing it.

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Very well put! This is how I view ponyplay (removing the higher cognitive reasoning to feel stripped and free of human thoughts). I enjoy forniphilia in a similar fashion, but more in a serving role as, no matter how people view it, you feel you're providing a helpful service to your partner. Even if it's just as a footstool. And it's more intimate (in a way) than just being told to hold a position in the corner of the room...

Being in the right mindset is a must; personally think it's the bottom that has to be in the mood for it, and the top indulges them. If you force yourself into it, personall gives me the same headrush as self-forced hypnosis, which can feel like you're loosing your mind a little. But that's possibly just me!

Sexual objectification is a completely different chapter imho.

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Edited 11 Feb 10, 3:33 PM by littlemiss_daydream

(That was a very long sentence, I need to take a breath now...)

This has taken the form of me usually lay down flat on a settee,either on top of or underneath the cushions.I then lie as still as possible and try to control my breathing so as not to disturb the person using me as a living seat.

It can be tough to cope with a persons weight sitting on your chest and stomach but cope i must...after all...that is my purpose...to be sat on.

It can be quite an experiance if you get into the right mindset and on such occasions you seem to sink down low and become absorbed, as 'one' with the settee.