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| 10 Feb 10, 8:04 PM Diablos_patience UK, 5 yrs |
Well the last time i looked i was female, and i would be more than happy to hand over my vote. ~* Raku wa ku no tané; ku wa raku no tané. *~ | |
| 10 Feb 10, 10:06 PM Ms_Valentine UK, 3 yrs  |
I see the issue that simply I have the power in my relationship to require him to vote as I wish. I have that power but do I wish to exercise it? Actually no, as I see no reason why paul should not be able to take his small part in the alleged democratic process just as we all do. He pays taxes and is competent to know his own mind, so as far as I see it, he can vote for who he chooses. If we lived in a marginal constituency and if it mattered so much to me that a particular candidate won, and if I genuinely felt that candidate winning the election would lead to a much better society, then I could see a case for instructing paul how to vote. Those things are unlikely occurrences. I have so little faith or connection with the political process nowadays that it is all I can do to get motivated and vote ( or maybe spoil my ballot paper in protest) so I can hardly legitimately get het up about what paul may do with his X in the box. 24/7 subs and slaves can and do live similar lives, it is only the concept of 'ownership' which separates them. | |
| 11 Feb 10, 10:38 AM De_Luxe UK, 5 yrs |
mia It's true that my boy handed everything over into my control but it doesn't mean I wish to exert that authority in every direction or that where I did there would be conflict of opinion. I always have the option to choose what is "right" too, rather than just what I want, if you see what I mean. The 'what ifs' are 'maybe's' not the 'what is' and whilst I think it is eminently sensible to examine possibilities it's also rather costly to over-worry and have to buy anti-wrinkle potions to prevent worry lines isn't it? I think The Unknown is usually scarier than the reality - except perhaps when the reality suddenly looks possible. Anyway, if you are certain that your potential owner is the best thing since sliced bread and you know that you can trust your dominant with your life and future, are they less important than your vote? Why not also trust him/her with your vote? Might that 'hard limit' change in time though with more confidence in well placed trust? If something means that much to you the obvious course to me is to ensure the dominant holds the same or similar views or, if they diverge greatly, is tolerant of yours. Me and mine share similar views so it isn't very likely that his vote wouldn't meet with my approval. Neither of us have any faith in the political system though due to several factors.
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| 11 Feb 10, 11:55 AM BigOldHector UK(DE), 10 yrs  |
No I'm not, I'm just a poor helpless weak-willed lickle subby.
Oh PWEEEEZE don't make me vote Tory, Mithtweth! I AM THE GOD OF HELL-FIRE!.....but its my lunch break right now | |
| 11 Feb 10, 5:03 PM raphael UK(EC), 10 yrs |
Thanks for the good debate. As I cannot see myself submitting to a Daily Mail reader or an evangelical Christian, the dilemma would probably only arise on the margins of beliefs. For me it would then depend on the degree of submission and level of trust. Although I will unenthusiastically but definitely vote Labour at the next election, I know there are good grounds for abstaining or voting Green /LibDem. On the level of persuasion I could imagine listening far more openly to a Dom than to a friend and consequently changing my vote. I wouldn't be submitting to someone unless there were shared values. In a power exchange situation within a loving relationship I would be putting my faith and trust totally in another person to decide what is right. I would probably see it simply as a symbolic act, giving someone power over my vote. If I knew the dominant had deep political convictions and cared deeply about others I would trust her judgement. When people join a political party or religious group they have faith in the leadership to make the right decisions. People follow a party line, papal infallibility etc. Faith helps overcome doubt. When doubt becomes unbearable, people leave or are thrown out. So when would it become unbearable for me? Could I vote for Boris Johnson? very difficult. Voting in referenda yes to bringing back capital punishment, suppressing gay rights or leave the EU definitely not, I couldn't live with myself.
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| 24 Feb 10, 6:16 PM Zarabeth UK(TW), 3 yrs |
I do not (yet) have a vote in this country, but would not have a problem voting as I was instructed to. I would not be submitting to someone whose judgement I didn't trust, and my vote is simply another asset to turn over. Frankly my interest in politics starts and ends with watching the PMQ's (and was pretty much non-existant in "the old country"). As popi said, it would be more difficult to give over the remote, as I have very specific viewing tastes.
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(as if!)