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IC : Groups : O_and_P : "Voting" 1 2 3 4 5
Voting (48)
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Posted by mia on Mon 8 Feb 10, 6:52 PM
How does this work in your relationships?
After much thought and some discussion, i realised that my faith and my right (but i call it a duty, generally) to vote are as important as my family - which run alongside my relationship, rather than fall within it.
However, i'm thinking more and more that if i trust someone enough to get into all of this, then should i trust them enough with my political duty too?
I just wondered about your thoughts on this and how it might work in your relationship?
Thanks,
mia, x
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8 Feb 10, 7:26 PM flamesdesire UK(OX), 2 yrs
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I don't vote, but if I did then the vote is mine to do as I please.
In the bounds of our relationship this will never come into it.
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8 Feb 10, 7:38 PM hinoeuma UK, 3 yrs
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mia wrote:
How does this work in your relationships?
However, i'm thinking more and more that if i trust someone enough to get into all of this, then should i trust them enough with my political duty too?
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Oh lord... historically i do not vote. i would hope that the person with whom im in a relationship with would come from a similar political stance as i.
i agree with you in theory, if you are trusting your life/wellbeing to someone then trusting them with your vote is akin to nothing really. ~* Raku wa ku no tané; ku wa raku no tané.
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8 Feb 10, 9:39 PM mia UK(LS), 2 yrs
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hinoeuma wrote:
i agree with you in theory, if you are trusting your life/wellbeing to someone then trusting them with your vote is akin to nothing really.
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I've always voted. It's the feminist in me. Women died trying to get the vote. People still die today trying to get the vote. It's important, to me. That's the thing, it's as important, to me, as my family or my faith, which are both things i could not give up and which i know whoever controlled me would not ask me to give up. I've not been asked to give up my vote, but half of me thinks i should and half of me thinks i can't. What a ballache!
mia, x "Passion should believe itself irresistible. It should forget civility and consideration and all the other curses of a refined nature. Above all, it should never ask for leave where there is a right of way."
@Manchester
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8 Feb 10, 10:00 PM mini_velvet UK(EH), 4 yrs
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I would never ever let someone else control my vote. I believe voting should be compulsory (with a none of the above option on the ballot paper for protest votes). I think it's vital that everyone votes and even more so as a woman. |
8 Feb 10, 10:06 PM mia UK(LS), 2 yrs
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velvet_minx wrote:
I would never ever let someone else control my vote. I believe voting should be compulsory (with a none of the above option on the ballot paper for protest votes). I think it's vital that everyone votes and even more so as a woman.
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THIS. YES this! But... But... Oh gosh... I don't know, i just don't know. I'm in such an awful mindset. I used to say on my sig "Every woman has the right to be free, I just don't want to be" and it seems to be sticking in my head over this issue.
mia, x "Passion should believe itself irresistible. It should forget civility and consideration and all the other curses of a refined nature. Above all, it should never ask for leave where there is a right of way."
@Manchester
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8 Feb 10, 10:17 PM jules9 UK(WA), 12 mths
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I keep coming back to this thread and trying to work out in my own head what I actually want/need.
I think that this is one of those areas, that I would gladly accept a hell of a lot of guidance from someone. Namely because I generally don't have *that* strong a feeling about which party I vote for (admittedly probably through ignorance more than anything else), although I do vote - it tends to be about the candidate rather than the party.
I know my hard limit would be the BNP, and I know ideally I'd probably like it if my partner was happy for me to make my own choice on this one. That said, if it was something that mattered incredibly to him, and it didn't go against my integral morals and values, then I'd give up control on my vote quite easily.
I suppose that's the crux of it for me. My core morals and values are not up for being changed, it's unlikely I would be with someone who didn't have similar one's to me anyway. So yeah, as long as that was respected, I'd be happy enough with whatever he decided.
XxX |
8 Feb 10, 10:19 PM mini_velvet UK(EH), 4 yrs
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mia wrote:
THIS. YES this! But... But... Oh gosh... I don't know, i just don't know. I'm in such an awful mindset. I used to say on my sig "Every woman has the right to be free, I just don't want to be" and it seems to be sticking in my head over this issue.
mia, x
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I can understand that. I guess at the end of the day it has to be a personal choice. For me no relationship (which could be transitory or long term, vanilla or D/s) is worth sacrificing the principle of the right for women to vote. It brings out one of my rare "angry feminist" moments. It's just too important.
I live in an area which can be quite anachronistic when it comes to attitudes towards things. In terms of race and sex relations it's very much stuck in a timewarp. A lot of men here do tell their wives/partners how to vote. Now I know they're not doing so because of any kind of Master/slave protocol but it highlights for me the utter egregiousness of being silenced politically. So many people around the world are unable to vote. To have that right is a privilege and one I'd personally never sacrifice.
I feel a slight rant coming on and don't want to hijack your post so I'll piss off now  |
8 Feb 10, 10:22 PM mia UK(LS), 2 yrs
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Well this is a moot point anyway. Doesn't stop me thinking about it and having tiny explosions go off in my head about the craziness of it all.
mia, x "Passion should believe itself irresistible. It should forget civility and consideration and all the other curses of a refined nature. Above all, it should never ask for leave where there is a right of way."
@Manchester
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8 Feb 10, 10:23 PM hinoeuma UK, 3 yrs
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mia wrote:
hinoeuma wrote:
i agree with you in theory, if you are trusting your life/wellbeing to someone then trusting them with your vote is akin to nothing really.
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I've always voted. It's the feminist in me. Women died trying to get the vote. People still die today trying to get the vote. It's important, to me. That's the thing, it's as important, to me, as my family or my faith, which are both things i could not give up and which i know whoever controlled me would not ask me to give up. I've not been asked to give up my vote, but half of me thinks i should and half of me thinks i can't. What a ballache!
mia, x
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Woman have died fighting for our equality too, yet here we are wishing to hand that power completely over to another. Yes i understand the concept that submission is our choice and because of that we are not being oppressed, but i am someone that can not quite see how my submission fit's in with the notion of also being a feminist. Im not trying to get in to a debate on feminism and submission as over the years it has been done to death, but to me it's a concept that just doesnt compute regardless of what arguments are put on the table.

~* Raku wa ku no tané; ku wa raku no tané.
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8 Feb 10, 10:24 PM mia UK(LS), 2 yrs
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velvet_minx wrote:
I feel a slight rant coming on and don't want to hijack your post so I'll piss off now
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No no, please feel free. I've yet to miss any election and vote mainly because of my feminism and the reasons you mentioned.
The thing that's difficult to get my head around is how it fits with O and P. As property, is it my worry anymore? My duty? Or is it something i still have to take responsibility for, much like my friends and family?
mia, x "Passion should believe itself irresistible. It should forget civility and consideration and all the other curses of a refined nature. Above all, it should never ask for leave where there is a right of way."
@Manchester
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