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| 7 Feb 10, 12:56 PM Ethics_Gradient UK(N), 5 yrs   |
Its OK for doms to abuse or manipulate people? And all men kill the thing they love, By all let this be heard, Some do it with a bitter look, Some with a flattering word, The coward does it with a kiss, The brave man with a sword! | ||
| 7 Feb 10, 1:02 PM areyouok 2 yrs |
I'd say respect is essential, in both directions. | ||
| 7 Feb 10, 1:04 PM Ama_Sidero  UK(GU), 6 yrs       |
There *are* people to whom that is their kink...extreme play, blackmail fetishes, etc. But considering it is CONSENSUAL and preagreed, it can't really be considered abuse or manipulation, can it? Non-consensual - not ok. Consensual - what turns them on. | ||
| 7 Feb 10, 1:10 PM Jahc99 UK, 5 yrs |
You and me both! Indeed, anyone who submits to me deserves a farkin' medal! I wonder, could I have the slightest interest in submission from someone I don't respect? I think not - the desire to dominate is, in itself, a mark of respect. There's a few I do deeply disrespect, and I am sure I could enjoy causing them large, lasting and deeply profound amounts of excruciating pain, but that's not the same thing, is it? Why poison your liver when I could eat it for you?
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| 7 Feb 10, 1:11 PM Captain_Jack UK(CR), 5 yrs |
I respect people who deserve my respect. Some subs or slaves don't. Some Dominants don't. Some nillas don't. Many others do. The deservedness of respect is in my opinion not connected to the power exchange. Your Captain Jack
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| 7 Feb 10, 1:15 PM NightFox UK(CV), 2 yrs |
I think that from a subs perspective thats spot on.
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| 7 Feb 10, 1:16 PM trillium UK(N), 4 yrs |
Love and respect are assets of any good leader, I would say a Dominant with no leadership skills won't get very far. Symbols can never be what it is they represent. | ||
| 7 Feb 10, 1:18 PM NightFox UK(CV), 2 yrs |
Thanks to all who have replied so far. Some enlightning, interesting, abstract and varied views. Food for thought. NF Edited 7 Feb 10, 1:19 PM by NightFox | ||
| 7 Feb 10, 1:37 PM OllieVW 2 yrs |
Ok here goes ill probably get shot down but im thick skinned. IMO yes and no. I think it all comes down to who you are playing with i.e. is it a long term play partner, wife, boyfriend etc... there doesnt seem to be a need for it within casual play, which im sure a large amount of us partake. I dont have to respect the person playing with me if im in a club and end up playing and neither do they have to respect me surely? How do you develope respect for someone you dont know or dont have time to. Example of this was the Sub Hunt i went to, I didnt realy know anybody just from online. 9 femdommes that didnt know me, didnt know what im was like as a person but more than happy to control me, beat me and for their own pleasure (and mine). So MY answer would be YES & NO as in my opinion respect takes time and sometimes time isnt available. Hit me with your rhythm stick.
Hit me! Hit me!
Je t'adore, ich liebe dich,
Hit me! hit me! hit me!
Hit me with your rhythm stick.
Hit me slowly, hit me quick.
Hit me! Hit me! Hit me! | ||
| 7 Feb 10, 3:15 PM trillium UK(N), 4 yrs |
The yes and no answer makes sense, however, there are usually people you/I would not play with (they may only do play that your against/they may not respect limits/they may just be creepy or disliked by your social group) on this bases you/I do not want to play casually with someone because of the lack of respect you/I have for the person. Personally from a submissive point of view the more respect I have for a Dominant the more fulfilling I find the play, even the smallest bits of play, to my subservient desires. Symbols can never be what it is they represent. |
