For the riggers amongst you... (24)

In the said profile, the person stated that when it came to rope/suspension type of play, they preferred someone slimmer and more flexible, the reasons beng that they were easier to tie/suspend.

Now I have no intention of this becoming another "my size body is better than your size" topic, as everyone has their personal preference, which is absolutely fine and as it should be.

My question relates to how does the size and build of a person make a difference to when you are rigging.

Ie - do you see a larger person and think immediately that you will encounter a lot more problems with say, trying a suspension, or does it not make any difference whatsoever? In the same way, is it harder with a very slim person, maybe with less body fat to accomodate pressure points from rope?

I know that I am not the lightest girl in the world, and when it came to me being suspended, it took a while to find a right method that suited me, but I got the impression that this was just due to my shape and pressure points, rather than weight.

I have no intention of using this as a way of having a go at anyone who says they do prefer smaller girls/guys btw, it really is just out of interest.

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Edited Sat 6 Feb 10, 5:06 AM by DoraExplorer

Genuine answer from my point of view (from a purely shibari point of view): Larger people aren't as aethestically attractive when roped.

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More flexible people can be tied in more positions, and can also be stretched to make allowances for any slight misjudgements in tension or length made early on.

However, easier is not better. Tying someone with physical limitations (which might be a big bum, huge biceps, or something like poor circulation or a heart condition) is an interesting challenge. New restrictions force one to think a bit and come up with new innovations in one's technique.

Basically, it comes down to how much sex you want in your rope. If someone finds bondage inextricably related to fucking then they will only want to tie people they would like to fuck (perhaps this is what the profile referred to in the OP was really saying). That's perfectly fine, and no value judgement on my part should be inferred.

However, many tops enjoy rope for other reasons, some or all of the time. Personally, rope bondage is an expression of D/s, so the only criterion is that I'd get a kick out of dominating the person. To that end, I'm just as happy tying big, muscly blokes as skinny women. I get my bondage for sex at home.

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This doesn't apply to unsuspended bondage. Aesthetically, larger stronger women have the appeal of requiring more rope.

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Small, thin women are obviously lighter, so moving them around and suspending them is much easier, but generally speaking, they are not so well endowed in the breast department, so breast bondage is less satisfactory.

Larger women have a layer of fatty tissue which allows the ropes to bite better and hold more securely, the skin seems to become marked more evenly by the pressure of the ropes, leaving lovely patterns. Not all large women are big breasted, but many are and breast bondage is great fun. The downside is that by being heavier, things like suspension need to be done with a bit more attention to detail. Also moving a larger woman while she is bound can present challenges, but not insurmountable ones.

Having tied all shapes and sizes over the years and enjoyed every one of them, my personal preference would always be for a curvy woman who when she has her wrists and ankles tied, is still light enough to be put over my shoulder and carried to the bedroom. As it happens, that's exactly what we did a couple of days ago.

as for flexabletily i am not that flexable and know and fair few BBW who have why more flexs than i do and i think its great

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Personally I find little significant difference with the size of the person being suspended. I may use a lot more rope to make them more comfortable.

However level of fitness, muscle tone and strength effect the person being suspended a great deal if they are heavy.

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One thing to watch out for is, especially with face down suspensions, is that extra weight on the chest can make breathing more effort, a classic start of a panic or nausea, and ropes over the shoulders can hurt like holy fuck if the tension is wrong, so a side on arrangement is sometimes preferable.

I usually rig all the weight bearing lines first, then do hands and arms - keep the two seperate, so you don't inadvertently end up putting half someone's weight onto their upper arm or something, especially with a new one. That's not essential, it just makes life easier as you figure it all out.

Some will say never rope over a corset - and they are talking crap. The corset can help spread load, but really really must not be tight, tho, or you really are asking for problems, so lace them well loose.

Prolly the easiest way is rope a nice, generously wide chest harness, plenty wraps, not too tight, and secure that aloft. Then, hips (and I mean hips, not tummy or lower spine), then lift one leg, support it above and below the knee and high on the thigh. See how that is - a nice wide wrap around the middle might be required, maybe some additional support for the shoulders, see how you go, get plenty of feedback.

You can tell when you have got it right, mind, because the person tied will be unable to resist lifting the other foot.

None of my approach has anything to do with shibari, apart from a certain amount of convergent evolution, by the way, it's stuff I have developed myself to sort the issues I encounter as I go along. And I certainly wouldn't judge quite what, or the beauty, of what can be done with rope solely on the size of the person being tied.

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Edited 7 Feb 10, 1:20 AM by Jahc99