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1 Feb 10, 5:18 AM
SirBstard
UK(DL), 6 yrs

Not wanting to get caught up in the ...."I know more guns than you do....but.....

I'm not sure a Glock actually HAS a safety catch ;)

Edited 1 Feb 10, 5:19 AM by SirBstard

1 Feb 10, 5:23 AM
Trussedworthy
UK(NW), 5 yrs
Doghouse_Reilly wrote:
If they were whaling on an inexperienced or worse unsuspecting model

They have several websites under the "mood" umbrella and used several kinds of models.

Some were professional models, one of their more recent affiliated sites had photos rather than videos and the quality of photography, of undoubtedly gorgeous and professional models, was superb. Some of these models had appeared repeatedly in several (quite hard) CP videos.

I got the impression most of the spankees had to first appear in the Mood castings videos so had an idea of the severity of the caning to expect, and based on what people have said, the money, often equivalent to a month's wages (£320 - £640 GBp equiv) for an afternoon's work was what kept them coming back.

I saw an intro trailer for one video though which suggested for the simple caning videos they would recruit normal girls straight off the street. One of the dommes was having a bet with her car driver about whether she could persuade certain women and they'd stop the car and she'd get out and offer random women money to take part in filming a game, although it was made perfectly clear that the loser of this game would get 50 strokes of the cane. There was no suggestion that these wouldn't be proper hard strokes and although some girls seemed initially taken aback by the suggestion, perhaps the offer of the money was too good to refuse, enough women agreed to it for these videos to be made with several women taking part. It could have all been scripted, but certainly it was portrayed as recruiting random (pretty, young, shop assistant / student type) women off the street.

Mood's elite pain website though looked pretty harsh, a world away from simple caning, and I'm guessing would have featured proper BDSM devotees.

They also had the Cruel Amazons site, featuring (mainly old, fat) men being caned and whipped, hard enough to break some canes and to well past the point of drawing blood. Perhaps unsurprisingly though, the male "victims" always seemed to come back to appear in more videos.

The idea of taking part in one of these videos, being tied down and whipped by (often several) gorgeous women always kind of appealed in some strange but very sexy way, but seeing the (surprising) severity that some of these women would punish to did always put me off the idea.

Edited 1 Feb 10, 5:30 AM by Trussedworthy

1 Feb 10, 5:59 AM
Doghouse_Reilly
UK(MK), 6 yrs

SirBstard wrote:
Not wanting to get caught up in the ...."I know more guns than you do....but.....

I'm not sure a Glock actually HAS a safety catch ;)

The idea of law enforcement officers walking around with guns that don't have a safety catch struck me as being so utterly ridiculous that it might just be true. So I looked. Then Wikipedia told me that Glock pistols have three safeties. An internal, a drop safety, and an external.

This thread shows why I'm glad British people aren't allowed guns. We're all fascinated by them but we need wikipedia to tell us really obvious things about how they work. :)

If you can keep your head while all about you are losing theirs and blaming it on you, you might want to stop waving that axe around.

1 Feb 10, 7:38 AM
proccie
UK(HP), 5 yrs


SirBstard wrote:
Not wanting to get caught up in the ...."I know more guns than you do....but.....

I'm not sure a Glock actually HAS a safety catch ;)

The safety is on the trigger, but the Glock has a long and heavy pull compared to the single action on most semi-autos.

I watched the video and to my mind given that they were carrying guns they looked to be acting fairly responsibly, fingers were not on triggers but resting straight alongside the gun.

I have seen a few trailers for their BDSM vids, and they looked pretty extreme, given the new act I wasn't going to buy one, have it imported scrutinised by customs and end up as a test case for the new extreme pornography act. I don't know how much real consent their was, after all there must be a lot of poor but pretty young things wanting extra cash. Having said that there we, so they were willing to come back for more.

I have no idea what sort of people ran the operation, drugs seemed to be involved and they were operating illegally surely? The police operation seemed roughly proportional to the job

Zen S&M: The sound of one hand smacking.
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(")_(") < MINE!
Science flies you to the moon, religion flies you into buildings. (Dawkins)

1 Feb 10, 7:42 AM
proccie
UK(HP), 5 yrs


Doghouse_Reilly wrote:
SirBstard wrote:
Not wanting to get caught up in the ...."I know more guns than you do....but.....

I'm not sure a Glock actually HAS a safety catch ;)

The idea of law enforcement officers walking around with guns that don't have a safety catch struck me as being so utterly ridiculous that it might just be true.

Revolvers as used by most of the worlds police forces, do not have safeties...At least not one where they can be carried cocked and locked.

Zen S&M: The sound of one hand smacking.
'()_/)
(>'.'<)
(")_(") < MINE!
Science flies you to the moon, religion flies you into buildings. (Dawkins)

1 Feb 10, 11:36 AM
Manteau
UK(S), 2 yrs

Doghouse_Reilly wrote:
In any country where the plod carry guns it's standard operating procedure to wave them around acting like you're Dirty Harry because this makes you a Real Man™ and able to push people around, which is what anybody joins the plod for. It's in the manual. No reason why the Hungarians should be any different.

Naturally this is a piss take? On the off chance you really think that might be true, don't make a point of telling a copper that! I made the aquaintance of a retired police firearms instructor (A friend of a friend) who had worked for the MET...I can absolutely guarantee no-one would guess what his former job was. A more humble, measured and stereotypical Mr 'Wallpaper' insurance salesman you couldn't wish to meet. Having 'Dirty Harry' in your team isn't a good thing I think you'll find. I for one wouldn't want a fuckwit who was playing out a fantasy of being the Terminator on my side in any capacity. They're dangerous to not only themselves but everyone around them.

Suffering becomes beautiful when anyone bears great Calamities with cheerfulness, not through insensibility but through greatness of mind. Aristotle

1 Feb 10, 1:00 PM
BadWulf
UK(TA), 6 yrs

I am not military, never claimed to be, I do shoot, oddly the two things are not mutually exclusive.

In any case the semantics of language might not be appreciated by a poor handcuffed sod after the event. :)

Back to this threads offshoot, (groan on your behalf) Seems, close on 800 folk died last year in the states due to accidental discharge, which , I freely grant, can be nothing but negligent.

On the subject of safeties I remember a conversation with a deputy in texas when I was nobbut a lad, where he carried his holstered automatic fully cocked with the safety on, told me this was standard practise for speed of use.

I also recall that 16 year old girl who was killed over here last year when somebody picked an air-rifle of the floor one morning not in any way touching the trigger and it happened to be pointing at her eye at the moment it failed and fired.

- Wulfy

yoda_dog wrote:
BadWulf wrote:
Hmmm Seem to recall the maxim is

'Do not point a gun at somebody unless you intend to pull the trigger.'

'Do not pull the trigger unless you intend to kill them'

It is reasonable advice, I've witnessed more than a few accidental discharges on the range.

- Wulfy

Yes, however...

Please read my previous post.

Oh, and I'm sure you know it's called a negligent (not accidental) discharge if you've been on a military range.

My, what sharp teeth I have.

Edited 1 Feb 10, 6:28 PM by BadWulf

1 Feb 10, 1:03 PM
marcusl
UK, 5 yrs

emark wrote:

Yes, I agree. An unarmed person in handcuffs is not a threat - and if a policeman can't keep control of such a person without shooting them, I'd say they shouldn't be in that job.

And the guy on the floor to the left of the picture is clearly NOT in handcuffs. Have another look. Trufax.

SirBstard wrote:
Not wanting to get caught up in the ...."I know more guns than you do....but.....

I'm not sure a Glock actually HAS a safety catch ;)

Yeah, all Glocks have safeties. They are inbuilt into the triggers, so as to avoid attempting to fiddle with a side mounted safety catch as with most models of semi-automatic pistol. The big exception to this are examples such as the Glock 18 which has an external safety located on the left of the top-slide, which allows the user to switch between semi-automatic and full auto.

If you're talking about the actual video linked to, you'll find at the contentious issue at 1:30 min it's an Uzi and not a Glock.

As for those who say he's being threatening; check the way the copper is holding the weapon. It's being held in what is called the 'low port' grip and the guy's finger is well clear of the trigger.

A weapon of that type will be held on a single point attachment sling, at the rear of the weapon, hence the reason it's pointing downwards. If he REALLY wanted to threaten the guys on the floor, he'd have it up in the aim, looking down the sighting system of the weapon. Not standing casually, whilst maintaining full control of the weapons system by grasping it with both hands.

Realistically, the UK is a rare breed in that we don't see police who regularly carry firearms. When a video is seen with police running around brandishing weapons, we should be thankful that it's not the societal norm to be faced with police who are armed as a matter of routine. In global terms, Britain is the exception, not the rule; probably because of our strict gun ownership rules. Most countries wouldn't bat an eyelid at the tactics used by law enforcement in the video, including EU members.

As for a trained unit doing the raid, who knows what they were going into? Them? You? Me? What information were they given by the aggrieved? As far as we know she could've told the police that the place was littered with firearms.

All hail Zoidberg, saviour of the Universe!

1 Feb 10, 1:18 PM
keithunder
UK(M), 10 yrs

A comment from Hungary on another board

A tv program about the case: http://www.rtlklub.hu/musorok/felketto/videok/81...

In the first part there are all of the footage together what you have already seen. One supposed victim says, she applied for a supporting role in a mainstream movie.

In the second part is an interview with the 4. district police chief. Of course the conversation has such tone, what is used in the media in serial rapist-killer cases.

The chief states, there was a single anonymous accusation. (Background: anonymous ac. is a hungarian tradition, even the Gestapo was surprised,because they had more here than in Germany.)

Then the reporter asks: Its usual to start a such process after an anonymous accusation? (Background: constantly about 600-800 officers are missing from Budapest)

Chief: Officially no, but we tought its necessary in this case.

WTF????

Screaming bitches are more important than maffia bosses?

I should emigrate... but not to U.K.

About hungarian law: I think there were contracts with the girls for sure. Years ago i was injured badly while sparring, my opponent used a foul technique. I asked legal experts and they said in the moment when i'm entering the ring (tatami, cage etc.), i'm passing up my body, even without written contract or anything. Only heavy damage (maiming, killing) can be indictable. All other is only "unfair play" what belongs to the sportfederation, not the court. (So I decided train more, to revenge) Updating Thanks, Please Wait Reply With Quote

1 Feb 10, 9:29 PM
SirBstard
UK(DL), 6 yrs

oh dear oh dear oh dear

really didn't want to get caught up in this shite

the glock is a semi auto-most semi autos pre glock had manually operated safeties, yes the glock does have a safety on the trigger but it means in order to shoot, you just pull the trigger and it goes bang

ffs

lol

and hardly any cops still use revolvers. even ours

end of my contribution as I have to go and eat my dinner;)

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