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| 30 Jan 10, 5:20 PM Dimswitch3 UK, 5 yrs |
Well you know what those Hungarian phrase books can be like. Joking apart, my thoughts are that if they've ignored safewords etc then they're guilty of assault. Also model release should be invalid. However the Hungarian authorities seem to have taken the stance that a person can't consent to assault. Much like "Operation Spanner", except that didn't result in a gun toting raid. Net effect is that Elite & Mood will probably set up somewhere else where they can either operate legally or pay of the local police.
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| 30 Jan 10, 5:24 PM Dimswitch3 UK, 5 yrs |
Well in the military. Who do know a thing or two about weapons do say "Don't point a gun at a person unless you intend to kill them".
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| 31 Jan 10, 10:20 AM Manteau UK(S), 2 yrs   |
Threatened how exactly? I think you'll find that a)The police of any force, don't usually ask permission to arrest or restrict movement of suspects b) Their weapons will have the safety catches on. Unless there was rank incompetance it's unlikely there would be a negligent discharge; and no, that doesn't mean premature ejaculation! Everyone is cuffed, whether or not they're later found to be victims/hostages or the bad guys.. At this stage they don't know which is which. Suffering becomes beautiful when anyone bears great Calamities with cheerfulness, not through insensibility but through greatness of mind.
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| 31 Jan 10, 10:27 AM Dimswitch3 UK, 5 yrs |
It's a film studio, not an armed robbery.
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| 31 Jan 10, 10:33 AM Manteau UK(S), 2 yrs |
As has been pointed out previously, it seems the Hungarian police ARU do things differently to what we might have in the UK. It wouldn't suprise me if they'd been trained by UK elements though. Sure we know it's a studio, so what? How would they know that they might not be met with opposition? They have no idea what they're going to get until they get there. Suffering becomes beautiful when anyone bears great Calamities with cheerfulness, not through insensibility but through greatness of mind.
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| 31 Jan 10, 7:15 PM Dimswitch3 UK, 5 yrs |
This is a police firearms instructor showing a safety catch, or rather that's his intention..... http://failblog.org/2008/10/23/gun-safety-fail/
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| 31 Jan 10, 9:06 PM fullysub UK(LE), 2 yrs |
I think we should be careful about judging things by our own cultural and economic standards. I know a few Hungarians - it is a poor country where, only a generation ago, people were starving under a bankrupt Soviet system. Two generations ago they were kept quiet by the threat of tanks. All is very far from well, there, and as we all know, dis-empowered people are at risk... It might not be a coincidence that some of the strongest SM videos are shot in eastern Europe. Does that perhaps indicate a touch of desperation on the part of the actors? Best wishes to all! ... the boy must be taught to feel the lash that falls and the curb that galls and the sting of the rowelled steel... | |||
| 31 Jan 10, 10:19 PM emark UK, 8 yrs |
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| 31 Jan 10, 10:21 PM emark UK, 8 yrs |
Sign the Consenting Adult Action Network's statement Edited 31 Jan 10, 10:37 PM by emark | |||
| 31 Jan 10, 10:38 PM Manteau UK(S), 2 yrs |
Oh please... Scenario: YOU are a police commander, YOU have to make a tactical decision that could result in your officers facing unknown adversaries carrying wepons, possibly ones that go bang at one end...What would YOU do? Knock on the door and ask if they could have a word at their earliest convenience? It was mentioned there was 'security'...I'm gussing not the local Girl Guides. So yes...If it was me, I'd make sure my gang had the advantage. Remember, they raided it on the basis of an alleged serious assault inflicted by several people, not a few dodgy DVD's.
I would suggest if you have a problem with the tactics used you get onto the Hungarian Embassy and present a concise and comprehensive critique of the police tactics. It might not help your argument however to mention any interest in BDSM. Suffering becomes beautiful when anyone bears great Calamities with cheerfulness, not through insensibility but through greatness of mind.
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