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What does it mean to be a submissive woman? (38)

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29 Jan 10, 3:03 PM
ClassAct2005
UK(N), 7 yrs
You might not like one of the second type. It depends on your own natural instinct. To some men it must seem a boring huge task to control a woman (and no one would do it for everything anyway) but for others it's very sexy to control what she wears, may be what she eats, does etc. If I would be burden for a man then I don't want him. The last thing I want is someone who is doing what I say because I want it. If it just comes naturally to him to take charge then it's pretty easy on both sides. And of course no one really will decide everything - you live your lives but know that he could stipulate whatever he chose. There's a balance. Someone saying he is dominant but never dominating is not likely to keep most submissives in a state of submission. You need to feel the control. It needs to be there, not just said. Some things will help maintain the dynamic but they will vary from couple to couple.

tony999 wrote:
What does it mean to be a submissive woman? The second type of submissive woman is the one I have less experience of and to whom I really address the question.

This woman might write or say things such as “Submission is at the core of who I am”, “I feel lost without my master”. She may seek a 24/7 and or TPE relationship.

Is this woman in essence a very different beast from the first? Does she seek to absolve herself of responsibility for the day to day running of her life by placing that responsibility in the hands of her 'Master' or 'Dominant'?

Perhaps manifesting itself in being told what to wear, who she can see, what other relationships she may have and with whom, being set tasks to prove and to drill her submission.

Would this type of submissive for example hand over to her Dom, responsibility for her weight, her appearance, how she approaches her career, or life / work balance and would it be true for her, ideally that D/s and or an element of control is always there.? Sometimes visible sometimes not..

Is it an altruistic thing? Or is it actually demanding?

Seems the more I learn the less I know. But I really would like to know more and hear from those who have experience.

29 Jan 10, 4:16 PM
benevolentviolence
UK, 6 yrs
I don't think of myself as a particular type of submissive woman. I have no interest in conforming to type or comparing myself with other people.

You can only be submissive to someone else. You can be as submissive as you like in your own head, but if you don't interract then it's just all air isn't it?

I couldn't possibly analyse why I do the things H asks me to do, or demands me to do, other than we get along quite well and he doesn't ask or demand too much. Or if he does he makes sure there's an incentive. Giftage is an easy swayer for me. I have had periods where I have felt frustrated and puzzled by TPE, and periods where I've settled in. Over umpteen years of domlyness I have learnt to get along with whatever state I'm in. Most people do.

So if you wanted to, you could call me a Pavlov's dog kinda sub. Truth to tell you can 'type' me any way you want to, it's all nit picking nonsense in any event as the wonderfulness of people generally is their adaptability.

Edited 29 Jan 10, 4:20 PM by benevolentviolence

29 Jan 10, 4:29 PM
tony999
UK, 5 yrs

benevolentviolence wrote:
I don't think of myself as a particular type of submissive woman.

Hardly a surprise.

Your profile states you are male.

Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness, that most frightens us.

29 Jan 10, 4:41 PM
Incandescence
UK, 3 yrs
BadWulf wrote:
This is good, only to add that her position on the scale is surely not nailed down? She can slide up and down it on a daily basis as can he on his Dom one.

At some point as they grow together they may stabilise relative to each other in positions that reflect their personal dynamic at that time.

(unless it is a tuesday)

- Wulfy

lima_pink_tigress wrote:
I think what you've described are two extremes on a scale. I don't think it's as simple as a 'part time' (sexual) submissive or a 'full time' (lifestyle) submissive.

I am most certainly sexually submissive and the thought of being in a 24/7 D/s relationship doesn't appeal to me in the least. But there are things, outside the bedroom (and which you have actually mentioned in your OP under 24/7) that would also appeal to me (and others that most definitely wouldn't) in the right circumstances.

Myabe it is but just me but I would be surprised if there aren't many more people who lie somewhere in between.

Yeh I very much agree on the sliding scale thing. And I think where a particular individual lies on the scale at any one point in time will depend greatly on the other half of the relationship.

In order to know virtue, we must first aquaint ourselves with vice - Marquis De Sade

29 Jan 10, 5:38 PM
tazallie
UK, 2 yrs

I am not interested in being a sexual submissive only, but neither do I want 24/7.

I am submssive, it is part of who I am, the same as I am a mother, a friend, a lover, a career woman etc...they all make me who I am. All intermingled, all demanding a slice of my time and psyche, all at my core.

I have given him my sexuality by my own choice the same way that I make the tea and coffee, make the dinner when he is with me. Because I want to, because it fulfills my needs by fulfiling his. He gets to choose some of my clothes, but only in so much as he can say 'wear a skirt today', the choice of skirt is mine, my way of expressing who I am, and if there is a reason I can't wear a skirt I will tell him and know that he will understand if I have a genuine reason. Just as if there is a reason he wants me to wear something for a specific reason then I will listen to him and conceede where possible.

But having said that, if I had had a bad day at work, my daughter was ill and I was tired would I want him to make me a cup of coffee, cook dinner and help tidy up? Absolutely, as part of his commitment to me (is the same as mine is to him) is to look after me, to care for me, to protect me and he does it very well. Do I want him to juggle my finances or make my decisions or run my life? Absolutely not, I am more than capable of it and its part of who I am.

Would I be lost without him? Yes I would but I would survive and continue to live my life and to find happiness and fulfilment in it.

My submission is tempered by my other commitments, it cannot be my whole world as I do not live in a box. I hold a job, I am a Mum, a sister, a friend and daughter...and each one of those relationships are just as vital to me as my Masters...they make me who I am, the person my Master chose. I will not compromise them any more or any less than I will my relationship with him.

And this works for me, for us, its not everyones way but its mine, ours.

I am me in all my personas...submission is fundamental to who I am, it is at my core, but equally so is being independent, being a mum and a sister, etc.

Tazallie
Getting there!

29 Jan 10, 7:26 PM
tony999
UK, 5 yrs

I am lucky with the quality of replies I'm getting on this.

Thanks.

Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness, that most frightens us.

29 Jan 10, 8:33 PM
painsublime
4 yrs
If a Dom demanded to choose for me the friends I see etc it'd be over. Even though I think that's quite unlikely to happen. But after all I hate micromanagement.
30 Jan 10, 1:23 AM
Cassius
UK, 3 yrs

tazallie wrote:
I am not interested in being a sexual submissive only, but neither do I want 24/7.

I am submssive, it is part of who I am, the same as I am a mother, a friend, a lover, a career woman etc...they all make me who I am. All intermingled, all demanding a slice of my time and psyche, all at my core.

I have given him my sexuality by my own choice the same way that I make the tea and coffee, make the dinner when he is with me. Because I want to, because it fulfills my needs by fulfiling his. He gets to choose some of my clothes, but only in so much as he can say 'wear a skirt today', the choice of skirt is mine, my way of expressing who I am, and if there is a reason I can't wear a skirt I will tell him and know that he will understand if I have a genuine reason. Just as if there is a reason he wants me to wear something for a specific reason then I will listen to him and conceede where possible.

But having said that, if I had had a bad day at work, my daughter was ill and I was tired would I want him to make me a cup of coffee, cook dinner and help tidy up? Absolutely, as part of his commitment to me (is the same as mine is to him) is to look after me, to care for me, to protect me and he does it very well. Do I want him to juggle my finances or make my decisions or run my life? Absolutely not, I am more than capable of it and its part of who I am.

Would I be lost without him? Yes I would but I would survive and continue to live my life and to find happiness and fulfilment in it.

My submission is tempered by my other commitments, it cannot be my whole world as I do not live in a box. I hold a job, I am a Mum, a sister, a friend and daughter...and each one of those relationships are just as vital to me as my Masters...they make me who I am, the person my Master chose. I will not compromise them any more or any less than I will my relationship with him.

And this works for me, for us, its not everyones way but its mine, ours.

I am me in all my personas...submission is fundamental to who I am, it is at my core, but equally so is being independent, being a mum and a sister, etc.

There is a huge difference between dominant and domineering.

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