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Why the feck would anybody want to do this?! (83)

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27 Jan 10, 1:03 AM
just_cassie
UK(BN), 4 yrs
Anansie wrote:
Betony wrote:
just_cassie wrote:
LOL... have to say, I share your sentiments...

I would also add that, in my experience at least, female orgasms are fairly "fragile" things and if you f*ck around with them too much... they just won't happen at all...

cassie x

Seconded!

Thirded.

Do that repetitively and create a psychological anchor and you're f*cked (well you're not, but getting to an orgasm won't happen because of the previous conditioning...).

Unless that's your intention...which is a sad thing indeed.

Nods... can I "fourth" my own quote? ;-)

I do think ScarlettdeWinter had a good point in that maybe it has something to do with how easily one reaches orgasm and possibly also related to different mindsets of course!

Personally, occasionally being told to "stop" can be extremely hot BUT if it happened too frequently or for too long, I know I would start anticipating that to the point where it would become almost impossible to err... override...

cassie x

27 Jan 10, 1:44 AM
Telesto
UK, 8 yrs
it's interesting hearing the reasons a guy might want to inhibit/stop orgasm in his partner. (not tease and denial)

have I been there? yep.

would I go there again? nope.

reading this thread, the reasons seem to boil down to 'because He can', and giving the 'dom' an opportunity to laugh at his 'sub' squirming.

You've missed out the huge area of 'because he can't'. the male can only come under very particular circumstances; and it gets in the way if the female gets fed up before those circumstances are reached. hence the denial of her orgasm...

27 Jan 10, 1:47 AM
BadWulf
UK(TA), 6 yrs

It is strange, I admit. Sort of an "anti-limit"

For me the Dom may be viewed as a guide, whilst the explorer may express ideas about where they hope to head towards to , but up to the guide to select which paths to walk in order to achieve this.

I accept this does require a trustworthy guide in whose map reading you are confident! :)

- Wulfy

Rhoobarb wrote:

What is the point of claiming to be submissive and then saying "Well I'm not playing if you don't do 'this'"? ...

My, what sharp teeth I have.

Edited 27 Jan 10, 1:48 AM by BadWulf

27 Jan 10, 2:10 AM
inappropriate*
UK(CF), 3 yrs
This is an interesting one for me. I get very grumpy when I'm sexually frustrated. Not just pouting and stamping feet but actually having enormous over-reactions to minor things. I don't deal well with no orgasms. Likewise ruined orgasms which would have been really intense ones can be really painful and still hurt if I come later (I know there are lots of sadists out there and that's the point for some, but not for me).

What is frustrating and not something I would choose, but is acceptable to me is if you are one of the few men who can successfully control (without denying for days) my orgasms, I'm happy for them to be controlled - as long as you can cope with my behaviour in between and know me well enough to actually deliver when you decide that I can come. Because if you don't I may over react substantially...

Come to the Cardiff fish and chips munch :)

27 Jan 10, 2:29 AM
prettyname
UK(NW), 11 yrs
crystaltips wrote:
I guess it would be a good test of twue submission - i guess i would probably fail it too.

Where did that come from?

~“Nothing is ever the same as they said it was. It's what I've never seen before that I recognise.” Diane Arbus~
~"it's what you see other times that's interesting"~ foxxx~
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27 Jan 10, 3:42 AM
DaddysTouch
UK(RG), 3 yrs
Telesto wrote:
You've missed out the huge area of 'because he can't'. the male can only come under very particular circumstances; and it gets in the way if the female gets fed up before those circumstances are reached. hence the denial of her orgasm...

Can honestly say I have never (and don't think I would ever) deny/ruin an orgasm during intercourse...

What men in all the world have shown such daring?

27 Jan 10, 5:24 AM
Goldilocks
UK(SE), 5 yrs
Tovarich wrote:
I have lived my whole adult life feeling that bringing a woman to orgasm is [snip] the only time I have any sort of sexual control!

So why on earth should a Dom want to stop that?!

To Each Their Own.

You say you have felt your entire life that bringing a woman to orgasm gives you the most control you have over her. There may be some people out there who have felt their entire lives that bringing someone to orgasm and ruining it gives them that control. Or they just like having total control over the orgasm from start to finish (or non-finish) hence being the Dominant one in control of such things.

If I were a Dominant male, I would occasionally ruin the orgasms of any female sub I played with. However as it stands, I'm just a submissive female whose orgasms are rather easily attainable and therefore very easy to fuck around with in a case of letting me or not letting me come. And I don't mind if someone ruins my orgasms either by taking me to the peak and not letting me fall into the pleasurable abyss or making them painful or something else. I prefer not to orgasm a lot of the time during sex and/or play anyway. TETO once again.

Not every single orgasm has to be pleasurable and nice. After all, variety is the spice of life.

And that's why there'll be lots of people who share your attitude, lots who don't and lots who have all kinds of opinions in between.

:-)

xX Goldie Xx

27 Jan 10, 7:45 AM
Betony
UK, 7 yrs
Anansie wrote:
Betony wrote:
just_cassie wrote:
LOL... have to say, I share your sentiments...

I would also add that, in my experience at least, female orgasms are fairly "fragile" things and if you f*ck around with them too much... they just won't happen at all...

cassie x

Seconded!

Thirded.

Do that repetitively and create a psychological anchor and you're f*cked (well you're not, but getting to an orgasm won't happen because of the previous conditioning...).

Unless that's your intention...which is a sad thing indeed.

You've explained it in a nutshell.

27 Jan 10, 8:02 AM
american_girl
UK(CB), 2 yrs
Goldilocks wrote:
To Each Their Own.

You say you have felt your entire life that bringing a woman to orgasm gives you the most control you have over her. There may be some people out there who have felt their entire lives that bringing someone to orgasm and ruining it gives them that control. Or they just like having total control over the orgasm from start to finish (or non-finish) hence being the Dominant one in control of such things.

If I were a Dominant male, I would occasionally ruin the orgasms of any female sub I played with. However as it stands, I'm just a submissive female whose orgasms are rather easily attainable and therefore very easy to fuck around with in a case of letting me or not letting me come. And I don't mind if someone ruins my orgasms either by taking me to the peak and not letting me fall into the pleasurable abyss or making them painful or something else. I prefer not to orgasm a lot of the time during sex and/or play anyway. TETO once again.

Not every single orgasm has to be pleasurable and nice. After all, variety is the spice of life.

And that's why there'll be lots of people who share your attitude, lots who don't and lots who have all kinds of opinions in between.

:-)

I fall into this category too. Because I'm responsive and have pretty attainable orgasms (and consider myself exceedingly lucky to be this way), I can ride whatever sensations are happening to me, be it denial or forced orgasm (painful orgasm, I've never experienced). I can certainly imagine, though, that if my orgasms were much tougher to get to, it could be a different matter.

On the switch side, I've never ruined an orgasm (well, I made the aftermath rather unpleasant once, but that's another story), though tease and denial is brilliant fun within a session. I've never denied beyond the end of the session, because I enjoy the power of making a man (or woman) come when I want them to. And I personally want them to come during the session, but that's just me. Having said that, extended denial is worth a look, and something I shall be exploring when the opportunity arrives ... :-D

27 Jan 10, 8:23 AM
wonderer
UK, 5 yrs

Tovarich wrote:

{quoting a post asking about about ruined orgasms for females}

... I have lived my whole adult life feeling that bringing a woman to orgasm is the moment of my most total control with her....and I am saying that from the position of a sub male; ie, the only time I have any sort of sexual control!

So why on earth should a Dom want to stop that?!

Hey - what an interesting mix of folk we are. I had a similar feeling in response to that posting but for rather different reasons. I think it's the almost the ulitimate *service* to bring a woman to orgasm; a wonderful act of submission to satisfy her desires perhaps while in chastity or at least denied oneself. Especially if it's oral, She can be in charge. Indeed a very good reason for a man to have a pony tail is that every sex toy needs a handle to allow the user greater control. (Sadly my practical experience of this is rather more limited then I'd like. :-( )

Back to ruining or denying a woman's orgasm. It's one of those areas where I find myself "naturally" thinking it would be the opposite of what I want to do. I want to give pleasure not deny it. Though I live the opposite idea - having my own satisfaction thwarted at the last minute or denied with chastity. But the longer I spend in this world getting to know people, the more I reasise there are women out there (perhaps not many)( who would get a lot out of this. I know a woman who (unless patterns in her life have changed recently) isn't allowed to masturbate without her partner's permission, and that amounts to virtually never, and is only allowed to refer to her cut with a word she finds utterly cringeworthy, "pussy". And she gets a lot out of this sort of control. And once I realise that someone is getting satisfaction from something, I can begin to envisage providing that control (in the manner of offerring a service) myself.

Service topping is reasonably well discussed on this site, and I think I'm describing something similar, a sort of service Dom-ing.

Again though, as usual with me, this is mainly speculation and second hand knowledge rather than being based in experience.

P.S. Also I'm answering without having read through the thread - apologies if it's already been said.

Ubi caritas et amor, Deus ibi est. http://www.informedconsent.co.uk/posts/226772/

Edited 27 Jan 10, 8:24 AM by wonderer

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