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MsSarah at least check your facts (83)

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bohnanza
Posted by bohnanza on Mon 25 Jan 10, 11:49 AM to bohnanza's blog.

MsSarah wrote:

After hearing that many cities did not want to offend other cultures by putting up Xmas lights, so DIDN'T!........

Which cities? Can you name one city which didn't have christmas lights because of causing offence rather than cost?

MsSarah wrote:

After hearing that the Birmingham council changed its opinion and let a Muslim woman have her picture on her driver's licence with her face covered

Since when did Birmingham Council have control over Driving Licences? I thought it was the DVLA.

MsSarah wrote:
After hearing of a Primary School in Birmingham where a boy was told that for PE they could wear Football League shirts (Aston Villa, Birmingham, West Brom etc) but NOT an England shirt as it could offend others !

Which school? You are so familiar with the case surely you know where and when it was? Or perhaps you could point to a news report on the BBC, Daily Mail (The paper which supported Hitler) or Sun websites?

MsSarah wrote:

This prompted the editorial below written by a UK citizen. Published in a British tabloid newspaper......

Which tabloid newspaper? You don't have many to choose from.

MsSarah wrote:

This idea of England being a multicultural centre for community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. As Britons, we have our own culture, our own society, our own language and our own lifestyle. This culture has been developed over centuries of wars, struggles, trials and victories fought by the untold masses of men and women who laid down their lives and of the millions of men and women who have sought freedom.

By saying England and using the term Briton you are being quite patronising. 15% of the population of Britain are not English, they are Welsh and Scottish and Irish.

MsSarah wrote:

We speak ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society, learn the language!

What about welsh and gaelic speakers? Aren't they allowed to speak their native languages? What about French, Norse and Latin? All of them were the language spoken here at one point? Shall we get rid of all foreign words in English, eg Weblog and Ms?

So what percentage of British residents in Spain speak Spanish? Have you posted something on a Spanish Resident website decrying them for not fitting in culturally?

Before you post racist crap at least check where it came from. The piece you posted comes from at least 2002 and is called This Is America. Some racist dickhead has just modified it slightly to apply to Britain and gullible types have copied t thinking it is true.

http://www.breakthechain.org/exclusives/beameric...

Replies

25 Jan 10, 11:56 AM
rodm99
UK(CB), 7 yrs
+1!

Seems YKIOK only if you're white and Anglo-Saxon...

'Twosies beats onesies, but nothing beats three...'

Edited 25 Jan 10, 11:57 AM by rodm99

25 Jan 10, 11:57 AM
MsSarah
UK(PO), 9 yrs

we are intittled to our views I read it and Im Not racist just thought I would post it......

25 Jan 10, 12:00 PM
Miss_Despotic
UK(M), 5 yrs

MsSarah wrote:
we are intittled to our views I read it and Im Not racist just thought I would post it......

Is your best friend black?

25 Jan 10, 12:01 PM
jules9
UK(CH), 3 yrs

MsSarah wrote:
we are intittled to our views I read it and Im Not racist just thought I would post it......

Yes, you are entitled to your views, but passing them off as fact, then learning that it may not be, but still choosing to keep something published that flames racist behaviour - I struggle to see what good it does anyone.

25 Jan 10, 12:02 PM
jules9
UK(CH), 3 yrs

Miss_Despotic wrote:
MsSarah wrote:
we are intittled to our views I read it and Im Not racist just thought I would post it......

Is your best friend black?

:-D

25 Jan 10, 12:18 PM
Iphis_me
UK(E), 4 yrs

MsSarah wrote:
we are intittled to our views I read it and Im Not racist just thought I would post it......

You're entitled to your views but can you defend them against the point by point criticism placed here? - you have asserted certain "facts" without any evidence given whatsoever.

"The unexamined life is not worth living" - Socrates

25 Jan 10, 12:22 PM
Kali_Ma
UK(B), 5 yrs
Anyone who thinks that 'British' or 'English' people are a pure bred race are clearly ignorant of our history. We are a nation of mixed breeds, right from the year dot when the European farmers moved in and kicked the Hunter Gathers into touch waaaaay back when, through to the Romans, then the Vikings, the Normans who subjugated the 'natives' and imposed their own language and customs (much of which our current law/language etc is still based on) then there were the Huguenots who came from France in the 16thC and intergrated into our bloodstock... and so on and so on.

I am proud of our multicultural heritage, and our history. Ignorance breeds fear, education opens the mind to the wonderful things in our beautiful world.

PGK x

'My Brothers, My Sisters, My Blood...'
'The best revenge is to live well...'
Impulsion @ Ceasers...One of THE best fet club nights in the Midlands!

Edited 25 Jan 10, 12:24 PM by Kali_Ma

25 Jan 10, 12:22 PM
stormywaters
PT, 4 yrs
Bonhanza I love you. You have a good heart and an ok brain.

I'm afraid I give up and can't be bothered/ find the energy when I see this crap but it is good you respond, heartening in fact. The Mail/ Hitler link is always worth reminding people of.

The proplem I have in responding is I know that kind of stuff is about people's own insecurity, lack of sense of their own identity etc etc and one posted response will be utterly pointless as far as that is concerened. But I am really glad you posted. It makes the site seem an ok place to be. Thank you.

My object all sublime...

25 Jan 10, 12:24 PM
Relaxed_and_Chaotic
UK(SE), 3 yrs

i think perhaps this is being taken out of context really.

i understand that MsSarah's post could be seen as inflamatory to some, but when you think about it, are we not becoming products of politically correct madness? In my mind it is not racist to say that as a nation we are being made to feel more and more as though our history and our Britishness is dangerous, something not to be celebrated incase it offends someone. Well i am sorry, but i take offense at that.

i have no facts to either prove, or disprove what she says in her post, i feel it must have happened somewhere, but to completely villify her for what she wrote, is not really fair...

gabrielle x

"There is no such thing as liberty. You only change one sort of domination for another. All we can do is to choose our master." D. H. Lawrence

25 Jan 10, 12:43 PM
Rhoobarb
UK(FK), 12 yrs
As for this bit
But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our National Motto, or Our Way of Life,
can someone tell me what "Our Pledge" or "Our National Motto" might be?

Or might it be that this has been 'adapted' from an American rant and this bit left in?

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How wonderful it is that nobody need wait a single moment before starting to improve the world. - Anne Frank

Edited 25 Jan 10, 12:44 PM by Rhoobarb

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