20 Jan 10, 6:58 PM
totallycoverme
UK(M), 4 yrs
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Elysium wrote:
totallycoverme wrote:
Elysium wrote:
totallycoverme wrote:
Elysium wrote:
totallycoverme wrote:
Elysium wrote:
totallycoverme wrote:
Elysium wrote:
totallycoverme wrote:
IndelibleMarker wrote:
I think TotallyCoverMe is right that fundamentally, on average men are physically built as the Dominant gender - to protect, fight etc.
But as has been pointed out, times, they are a changing...
I'm going to outline below a basic but effective FemDomme training scene (I could throw in a huge amount more detail, but I don't have time!)... The reason I'm putting this in is to show that on average, men are actually more easy to manipulate and control psychologically in terms of their sexual needs and frustrations. This can be seen with the amount of erotic artwork and pornography aimed at men.
It is possible for a woman to capitalise on this more and more in society while males physical strength becomes less and less useful (in a sexual context, using their physical strength to overpower a woman without consent would be considered rape).
If within the context of a relationship, a woman takes a man and tells him she wants to play a sexual game, then takes him to the bedroom and lays him on the bed naked while she's fully clothed, after a subtle extended period of no sex with him...
This builds sexual tension and the concept of a "game" puts his defence mechanisms on hold because people naturally like the idea of games as they relate to fun. All this will mean he will be more compliant.
If she then rubs around his cock teasing him and tells him about her dominance, and how some things are going to "change around here" while slowly stroking him his horniness will rapidly increase. If she then puts her face close to his and begins kissing him, whispering in his ear but all the time pressing her knee up against his balls it'll be more likely to bring out a submissive side - and again, compliance.
At this point she can make him write an essay, or have him talk about the FemDomme lifestyle, but it has to come from him and it has to be about what he will do to please her. There also has to be a reward/punishment system in place for if it's good. eg - He isn't allowed to cum tonight but if it's good then he can cum tomorrow, if it's not good then he'll have to wait another day. Make him promise to behave. (powerful words like behave, obedience and phrases like "good boy" have a huge effect and at this point will be considered just a part of the game... But in time, they won't be any more.)
From then on things can rapidly change and be implemented using a similar system on a daily basis. eg Chores must be completed to give the woman pleasure, five orgasms for the women will allow him one. He can beg for sex, chastity can be used as can humiliation and regular punishments and rewards of tease, temptation, but usually denial.
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ah, now this I understand. I have friends who claim that they have a good understanding of how men work and as a result, seem to have mastered the art of getting what they want from men.
I have yet to decode men in a way that would enable me to seduce one. I am always (yet rarely lol) the seduced lol
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I'd eat you for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Not in a good way either. You should take things really slowly with any prospective dominants.
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See I regret to say that I'm not even down with the kids enough to totally understand what you mean when you say you'll eat me for breakfast.
My knowledge of youth lingo tends to expire around the point at which things were totally rad and tubular dude!
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I'm saying your naivety makes you ripe for abuse. So, be careful and get some trusted close friends and take things slow.
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At the risk of making meself look like a tit, if you really think that then please elaborate because the more I can learn, the better. Memo me maybe?
ETA: man I'm baffled, people are always so divided on whether they say I sound older and sorted or immature and totally lost. God what I would give to grow up and stop being some 21 year old sprog
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I've only got your posts to go on. But, judging from them, if anyone tells you you sound older and sorted online, they're lying.
I don't think I have anything constructive I can say to you via memo. Just take my above comment for what it's worth.
For the record, you don't look like a tit.
It was a bit of a dick thing for me to post.
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In which case I'll agree to disagree because I don't think me not agreeing with your opinion (or you not agreeing with mine) correlates with a level of nievity on my part.
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Nothing to do with differing opinions. I don't expect you to concede naivety. I'm not that much older than you.
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we're probably equally nieve then 
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Don;t know about that: I can spell it.
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an ability to spell sure does correlate with a lack of NIGHEVEATEEE ma friend lol...nah tis cool, I'm only havin a laff, I got no beef wit chu 
phonemes eh? besides, punctuation  It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice xx
Edited 20 Jan 10, 7:01 PM by totallycoverme
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20 Jan 10, 7:02 PM
Souci_X
UK(BA), 5 yrs
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I have found the opposite of the OP's point, I live with 5 other girls and only one of them could be called remotely submissive, and to be fair thats pushing it really, the other three are very very dominant, my mother was to my father too, and my aunts are. I believe its naff all to do with genes and all to do with attitude and socialisation As twue as words spoken under interrogation.
Souci Selfless, After I have had a fag, Controversial X (too many middle names)
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20 Jan 10, 7:03 PM
totallycoverme
UK(M), 4 yrs
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Souci_X wrote:
I have found the opposite of the OP's point, I live with 5 other girls and only one of them could be called remotely submissive, and to be fair thats pushing it really, the other three are very very dominant, my mother was to my father too, and my aunts are. I believe its naff all to do with genes and all to do with attitude and socialisation
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do you think the girls you live with would be as dominant if they lived with men though? It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice xx
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20 Jan 10, 7:43 PM
trillium
UK(N), 4 yrs
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totallycoverme wrote:
Souci_X wrote:
I have found the opposite of the OP's point, I live with 5 other girls and only one of them could be called remotely submissive, and to be fair thats pushing it really, the other three are very very dominant, my mother was to my father too, and my aunts are. I believe its naff all to do with genes and all to do with attitude and socialisation
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do you think the girls you live with would be as dominant if they lived with men though?
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Depends on the men, if their real men/good tools or not, if they are then I'm sure they would be. Symbols can never be what it is they represent.
Edited 20 Jan 10, 7:49 PM by trillium
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20 Jan 10, 8:43 PM
Souci_X
UK(BA), 5 yrs
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totallycoverme wrote:
Souci_X wrote:
I have found the opposite of the OP's point, I live with 5 other girls and only one of them could be called remotely submissive, and to be fair thats pushing it really, the other three are very very dominant, my mother was to my father too, and my aunts are. I believe its naff all to do with genes and all to do with attitude and socialisation
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do you think the girls you live with would be as dominant if they lived with men though?
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They do, three men in fact (full house)
As twue as words spoken under interrogation.
Souci Selfless, After I have had a fag, Controversial X (too many middle names)
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20 Jan 10, 8:57 PM
the_ex
UK(PE), 2 yrs |
To all...
The problem with generalisations is that they are often deconstructed when attemtping to apply them to exceptions to the general paradigm.
I really could do with a thumbs up smiley here to express my smug superiority!
Or in plane English, and as someone else has eloquently put: that whole alpha/beta thing is horseshit.
Besides, what does it really matter, if you're happy and you know it... |
20 Jan 10, 9:02 PM
Souci_X
UK(BA), 5 yrs
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the_ex wrote:
Or in plane English,
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Sorry that really tickled me.
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The problem with generalisations is that they are often deconstructed when attemtping to apply them to exceptions to the general paradigm.
I really could do with a thumbs up smiley here to express my smug superiority!
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Yes that is the problem with generalisations, well one of them. When I graduated one of my lecturers stood in front of the class and said, if any of us wanted to go into the business of national statistics we better be good liars because all theories can be discredited by reality. As twue as words spoken under interrogation.
Souci Selfless, After I have had a fag, Controversial X (too many middle names)
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23 Jan 10, 10:31 AM
ClassAct2005
UK(N), 7 yrs
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Research does show differences in male and female brain chemistry. Men do have higher levels of testosterone and I think more men think about sex more than the numbers of women therefore it's probably so that it's easier to lure a man through promise and arousal of sex than it is most women. I am not sure that makes women though the dominant sex in any sense. Some of us seem to be born very submissive and others not and I bet that's often been the case throughout history but that it is simply hard in many sexist paternalistic cultures for women to wield power outside the home. |
24 Jan 10, 12:30 AM
friendly_Paradox
UK(NN), 6 yrs
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totallycoverme wrote:
hmmm, I guess I'm just going on how I instinctively feel around men. Like I'm not sure I remember being around a guy and not feeling like I want to be protected by him. I regret to say that maybe that sounds a bit sad and one day, it might be nice for me to evolve a bit and get my head round the idea of feeling different around men.
I have no idea if this makes *any* sense
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You have no reason to regret anything. Although submissive, I still see it as my role to physically protect my female partner. If people think that a little "old fashioned" well, so be it. I also see it as my role to shoulder responsibilities, which many would say is an even more "old fashioned".
I have a business in which I employ a number of people and as such have to have a dominant role in my everyday life. I suspect you will find that most dominant females prefer not to dominate weak men.
At the end of the day, general statements that say females (or males) are the dominant gender are pointless and depend entirely on each individuals views and sexuality.
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25 Jan 10, 11:27 AM
BadWulf
UK(TA), 6 yrs
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Completely fail to see how indelibles "game" example above is in any way more relevant to, applicable for or effective with, men rather than women?
- Wulfy My, what sharp teeth I have.
Edited 25 Jan 10, 11:28 AM by BadWulf
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