20 Jan 10, 3:23 PM Elysium UK(EH), 5 yrs 
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IndelibleMarker wrote:
Elysium wrote:
IndelibleMarker wrote:
Elysium wrote:
I think you can't manipulate someone into having the desire to please you and submit to your desires. The 60-70 year old behaviourist principles that NLP are based on, go extinct very quickly in human beings, due to our inherent adaptability. What that adds up to is that all the interesting little fun manipulations and training quickly fade if not constantly reinforced and you're left with someone who isn't really submissive to you because they want to be. You need that submissive basis, in a desire to please, in order to build upon it.
It's somewhat Dom/me power trip fantasy land to think otherwise.
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I used to teach NLP and I've got 32 DVD's (four given to me by the company every 6 months updating me of all the new things being taught). But that's totally separate to all this.
The most predictable thing about people is their inability to accept their own predictability.
But OK, you need a submissive foundation to build on. You know, I agree, you're right. I just think I may be a little more open minded about the number of men who have that submissive foundation, and perhaps don't even know about it.
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I never even alluded to how many men I think have the potential for submission. So, I don't know what you're basing that statement on.
It is somewhat contradictory to state in the same breath that men are primarily motivated by their own cocks, and then state that a majority of them have a latent desire to put their partners pleasure above their own, no?
I studied Psychology at university. Though, strangely, they've never sent me any DVD's.
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I taught NLP as a job at a London company. I studied Engineering at Uni. 
Well, I'm saying it because I think that most men will react surprisingly positively to a FemDomme lifestyle. You said they need the foundation, I'm saying I think that most people, even in the vanilla world, do have the foundation - even if they're not aware of it/ready to admit it.
But I'm interested to hear other peoples opinions on that.
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I fear you may be generalising your own experiences.
If most men are motivated by their own self interest(cock), then most men are not motivated by pleasing their partner.
Sure, the self interest can be manipulated to that effect. But, only as long as the man can take it. There are plenty of women out there. If you have to manipulate to gain submission, it's not worth having in the first place. |
20 Jan 10, 3:25 PM Elysium UK(EH), 5 yrs 
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totallycoverme wrote:
Elysium wrote:
totallycoverme wrote:
IndelibleMarker wrote:
I think TotallyCoverMe is right that fundamentally, on average men are physically built as the Dominant gender - to protect, fight etc.
But as has been pointed out, times, they are a changing...
I'm going to outline below a basic but effective FemDomme training scene (I could throw in a huge amount more detail, but I don't have time!)... The reason I'm putting this in is to show that on average, men are actually more easy to manipulate and control psychologically in terms of their sexual needs and frustrations. This can be seen with the amount of erotic artwork and pornography aimed at men.
It is possible for a woman to capitalise on this more and more in society while males physical strength becomes less and less useful (in a sexual context, using their physical strength to overpower a woman without consent would be considered rape).
If within the context of a relationship, a woman takes a man and tells him she wants to play a sexual game, then takes him to the bedroom and lays him on the bed naked while she's fully clothed, after a subtle extended period of no sex with him...
This builds sexual tension and the concept of a "game" puts his defence mechanisms on hold because people naturally like the idea of games as they relate to fun. All this will mean he will be more compliant.
If she then rubs around his cock teasing him and tells him about her dominance, and how some things are going to "change around here" while slowly stroking him his horniness will rapidly increase. If she then puts her face close to his and begins kissing him, whispering in his ear but all the time pressing her knee up against his balls it'll be more likely to bring out a submissive side - and again, compliance.
At this point she can make him write an essay, or have him talk about the FemDomme lifestyle, but it has to come from him and it has to be about what he will do to please her. There also has to be a reward/punishment system in place for if it's good. eg - He isn't allowed to cum tonight but if it's good then he can cum tomorrow, if it's not good then he'll have to wait another day. Make him promise to behave. (powerful words like behave, obedience and phrases like "good boy" have a huge effect and at this point will be considered just a part of the game... But in time, they won't be any more.)
From then on things can rapidly change and be implemented using a similar system on a daily basis. eg Chores must be completed to give the woman pleasure, five orgasms for the women will allow him one. He can beg for sex, chastity can be used as can humiliation and regular punishments and rewards of tease, temptation, but usually denial.
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ah, now this I understand. I have friends who claim that they have a good understanding of how men work and as a result, seem to have mastered the art of getting what they want from men.
I have yet to decode men in a way that would enable me to seduce one. I am always (yet rarely lol) the seduced lol
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I'd eat you for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Not in a good way either. You should take things really slowly with any prospective dominants.
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See I regret to say that I'm not even down with the kids enough to totally understand what you mean when you say you'll eat me for breakfast.
My knowledge of youth lingo tends to expire around the point at which things were totally rad and tubular dude!
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I'm saying your naivety makes you ripe for abuse. So, be careful and get some trusted close friends and take things slow. |
20 Jan 10, 3:53 PM De_Luxe UK, 5 yrs
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The main problem I have with a book that suggests she starts playing a "little game" which gets "real later" is she has started out with a hidden agenda, she knows what she is doing and he doesn't become aware that he's been duped by the woman he trusted until later. Where's the informed consent? Where's the honesty?
How will knowing she is manipulating him without his knowledge make her feel? Sexy or sneaky, good or guilty?
How will he feel?
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20 Jan 10, 3:57 PM totallycoverme UK(M), 4 yrs
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Elysium wrote:
totallycoverme wrote:
Elysium wrote:
totallycoverme wrote:
IndelibleMarker wrote:
I think TotallyCoverMe is right that fundamentally, on average men are physically built as the Dominant gender - to protect, fight etc.
But as has been pointed out, times, they are a changing...
I'm going to outline below a basic but effective FemDomme training scene (I could throw in a huge amount more detail, but I don't have time!)... The reason I'm putting this in is to show that on average, men are actually more easy to manipulate and control psychologically in terms of their sexual needs and frustrations. This can be seen with the amount of erotic artwork and pornography aimed at men.
It is possible for a woman to capitalise on this more and more in society while males physical strength becomes less and less useful (in a sexual context, using their physical strength to overpower a woman without consent would be considered rape).
If within the context of a relationship, a woman takes a man and tells him she wants to play a sexual game, then takes him to the bedroom and lays him on the bed naked while she's fully clothed, after a subtle extended period of no sex with him...
This builds sexual tension and the concept of a "game" puts his defence mechanisms on hold because people naturally like the idea of games as they relate to fun. All this will mean he will be more compliant.
If she then rubs around his cock teasing him and tells him about her dominance, and how some things are going to "change around here" while slowly stroking him his horniness will rapidly increase. If she then puts her face close to his and begins kissing him, whispering in his ear but all the time pressing her knee up against his balls it'll be more likely to bring out a submissive side - and again, compliance.
At this point she can make him write an essay, or have him talk about the FemDomme lifestyle, but it has to come from him and it has to be about what he will do to please her. There also has to be a reward/punishment system in place for if it's good. eg - He isn't allowed to cum tonight but if it's good then he can cum tomorrow, if it's not good then he'll have to wait another day. Make him promise to behave. (powerful words like behave, obedience and phrases like "good boy" have a huge effect and at this point will be considered just a part of the game... But in time, they won't be any more.)
From then on things can rapidly change and be implemented using a similar system on a daily basis. eg Chores must be completed to give the woman pleasure, five orgasms for the women will allow him one. He can beg for sex, chastity can be used as can humiliation and regular punishments and rewards of tease, temptation, but usually denial.
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ah, now this I understand. I have friends who claim that they have a good understanding of how men work and as a result, seem to have mastered the art of getting what they want from men.
I have yet to decode men in a way that would enable me to seduce one. I am always (yet rarely lol) the seduced lol
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I'd eat you for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Not in a good way either. You should take things really slowly with any prospective dominants.
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See I regret to say that I'm not even down with the kids enough to totally understand what you mean when you say you'll eat me for breakfast.
My knowledge of youth lingo tends to expire around the point at which things were totally rad and tubular dude!
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I'm saying your naivety makes you ripe for abuse. So, be careful and get some trusted close friends and take things slow.
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At the risk of making meself look like a tit, if you really think that then please elaborate because the more I can learn, the better. Memo me maybe?
ETA: man I'm baffled, people are always so divided on whether they say I sound older and sorted or immature and totally lost. God what I would give to grow up and stop being some 21 year old sprog It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice xx
Edited 20 Jan 10, 4:02 PM by totallycoverme
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20 Jan 10, 4:07 PM trillium UK(N), 4 yrs 
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Powers never equaled control
Power = power
Control = control
One can have control over power, but it's only ever been destructive to have power over control. Symbols can never be what it is they represent.
Edited 20 Jan 10, 4:09 PM by trillium
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20 Jan 10, 4:10 PM Elysium UK(EH), 5 yrs 
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totallycoverme wrote:
Elysium wrote:
totallycoverme wrote:
Elysium wrote:
totallycoverme wrote:
IndelibleMarker wrote:
I think TotallyCoverMe is right that fundamentally, on average men are physically built as the Dominant gender - to protect, fight etc.
But as has been pointed out, times, they are a changing...
I'm going to outline below a basic but effective FemDomme training scene (I could throw in a huge amount more detail, but I don't have time!)... The reason I'm putting this in is to show that on average, men are actually more easy to manipulate and control psychologically in terms of their sexual needs and frustrations. This can be seen with the amount of erotic artwork and pornography aimed at men.
It is possible for a woman to capitalise on this more and more in society while males physical strength becomes less and less useful (in a sexual context, using their physical strength to overpower a woman without consent would be considered rape).
If within the context of a relationship, a woman takes a man and tells him she wants to play a sexual game, then takes him to the bedroom and lays him on the bed naked while she's fully clothed, after a subtle extended period of no sex with him...
This builds sexual tension and the concept of a "game" puts his defence mechanisms on hold because people naturally like the idea of games as they relate to fun. All this will mean he will be more compliant.
If she then rubs around his cock teasing him and tells him about her dominance, and how some things are going to "change around here" while slowly stroking him his horniness will rapidly increase. If she then puts her face close to his and begins kissing him, whispering in his ear but all the time pressing her knee up against his balls it'll be more likely to bring out a submissive side - and again, compliance.
At this point she can make him write an essay, or have him talk about the FemDomme lifestyle, but it has to come from him and it has to be about what he will do to please her. There also has to be a reward/punishment system in place for if it's good. eg - He isn't allowed to cum tonight but if it's good then he can cum tomorrow, if it's not good then he'll have to wait another day. Make him promise to behave. (powerful words like behave, obedience and phrases like "good boy" have a huge effect and at this point will be considered just a part of the game... But in time, they won't be any more.)
From then on things can rapidly change and be implemented using a similar system on a daily basis. eg Chores must be completed to give the woman pleasure, five orgasms for the women will allow him one. He can beg for sex, chastity can be used as can humiliation and regular punishments and rewards of tease, temptation, but usually denial.
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ah, now this I understand. I have friends who claim that they have a good understanding of how men work and as a result, seem to have mastered the art of getting what they want from men.
I have yet to decode men in a way that would enable me to seduce one. I am always (yet rarely lol) the seduced lol
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I'd eat you for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Not in a good way either. You should take things really slowly with any prospective dominants.
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See I regret to say that I'm not even down with the kids enough to totally understand what you mean when you say you'll eat me for breakfast.
My knowledge of youth lingo tends to expire around the point at which things were totally rad and tubular dude!
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I'm saying your naivety makes you ripe for abuse. So, be careful and get some trusted close friends and take things slow.
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At the risk of making meself look like a tit, if you really think that then please elaborate because the more I can learn, the better. Memo me maybe?
ETA: man I'm baffled, people are always so divided on whether they say I sound older and sorted or immature and totally lost. God what I would give to grow up and stop being some 21 year old sprog
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I've only got your posts to go on. But, judging from them, if anyone tells you you sound older and sorted online, they're lying.
I don't think I have anything constructive I can say to you via memo. Just take my above comment for what it's worth.
For the record, you don't look like a tit.
It was a bit of a dick thing for me to post. |
20 Jan 10, 4:13 PM totallycoverme UK(M), 4 yrs
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Elysium wrote:
totallycoverme wrote:
Elysium wrote:
totallycoverme wrote:
Elysium wrote:
totallycoverme wrote:
IndelibleMarker wrote:
I think TotallyCoverMe is right that fundamentally, on average men are physically built as the Dominant gender - to protect, fight etc.
But as has been pointed out, times, they are a changing...
I'm going to outline below a basic but effective FemDomme training scene (I could throw in a huge amount more detail, but I don't have time!)... The reason I'm putting this in is to show that on average, men are actually more easy to manipulate and control psychologically in terms of their sexual needs and frustrations. This can be seen with the amount of erotic artwork and pornography aimed at men.
It is possible for a woman to capitalise on this more and more in society while males physical strength becomes less and less useful (in a sexual context, using their physical strength to overpower a woman without consent would be considered rape).
If within the context of a relationship, a woman takes a man and tells him she wants to play a sexual game, then takes him to the bedroom and lays him on the bed naked while she's fully clothed, after a subtle extended period of no sex with him...
This builds sexual tension and the concept of a "game" puts his defence mechanisms on hold because people naturally like the idea of games as they relate to fun. All this will mean he will be more compliant.
If she then rubs around his cock teasing him and tells him about her dominance, and how some things are going to "change around here" while slowly stroking him his horniness will rapidly increase. If she then puts her face close to his and begins kissing him, whispering in his ear but all the time pressing her knee up against his balls it'll be more likely to bring out a submissive side - and again, compliance.
At this point she can make him write an essay, or have him talk about the FemDomme lifestyle, but it has to come from him and it has to be about what he will do to please her. There also has to be a reward/punishment system in place for if it's good. eg - He isn't allowed to cum tonight but if it's good then he can cum tomorrow, if it's not good then he'll have to wait another day. Make him promise to behave. (powerful words like behave, obedience and phrases like "good boy" have a huge effect and at this point will be considered just a part of the game... But in time, they won't be any more.)
From then on things can rapidly change and be implemented using a similar system on a daily basis. eg Chores must be completed to give the woman pleasure, five orgasms for the women will allow him one. He can beg for sex, chastity can be used as can humiliation and regular punishments and rewards of tease, temptation, but usually denial.
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ah, now this I understand. I have friends who claim that they have a good understanding of how men work and as a result, seem to have mastered the art of getting what they want from men.
I have yet to decode men in a way that would enable me to seduce one. I am always (yet rarely lol) the seduced lol
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I'd eat you for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Not in a good way either. You should take things really slowly with any prospective dominants.
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See I regret to say that I'm not even down with the kids enough to totally understand what you mean when you say you'll eat me for breakfast.
My knowledge of youth lingo tends to expire around the point at which things were totally rad and tubular dude!
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I'm saying your naivety makes you ripe for abuse. So, be careful and get some trusted close friends and take things slow.
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At the risk of making meself look like a tit, if you really think that then please elaborate because the more I can learn, the better. Memo me maybe?
ETA: man I'm baffled, people are always so divided on whether they say I sound older and sorted or immature and totally lost. God what I would give to grow up and stop being some 21 year old sprog
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I've only got your posts to go on. But, judging from them, if anyone tells you you sound older and sorted online, they're lying.
I don't think I have anything constructive I can say to you via memo. Just take my above comment for what it's worth.
For the record, you don't look like a tit.
It was a bit of a dick thing for me to post.
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In which case I'll agree to disagree because I don't think me not agreeing with your opinion (or you not agreeing with mine) correlates with a level of nievity on my part.
It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice xx
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20 Jan 10, 4:17 PM Elysium UK(EH), 5 yrs 
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totallycoverme wrote:
Elysium wrote:
totallycoverme wrote:
Elysium wrote:
totallycoverme wrote:
Elysium wrote:
totallycoverme wrote:
IndelibleMarker wrote:
I think TotallyCoverMe is right that fundamentally, on average men are physically built as the Dominant gender - to protect, fight etc.
But as has been pointed out, times, they are a changing...
I'm going to outline below a basic but effective FemDomme training scene (I could throw in a huge amount more detail, but I don't have time!)... The reason I'm putting this in is to show that on average, men are actually more easy to manipulate and control psychologically in terms of their sexual needs and frustrations. This can be seen with the amount of erotic artwork and pornography aimed at men.
It is possible for a woman to capitalise on this more and more in society while males physical strength becomes less and less useful (in a sexual context, using their physical strength to overpower a woman without consent would be considered rape).
If within the context of a relationship, a woman takes a man and tells him she wants to play a sexual game, then takes him to the bedroom and lays him on the bed naked while she's fully clothed, after a subtle extended period of no sex with him...
This builds sexual tension and the concept of a "game" puts his defence mechanisms on hold because people naturally like the idea of games as they relate to fun. All this will mean he will be more compliant.
If she then rubs around his cock teasing him and tells him about her dominance, and how some things are going to "change around here" while slowly stroking him his horniness will rapidly increase. If she then puts her face close to his and begins kissing him, whispering in his ear but all the time pressing her knee up against his balls it'll be more likely to bring out a submissive side - and again, compliance.
At this point she can make him write an essay, or have him talk about the FemDomme lifestyle, but it has to come from him and it has to be about what he will do to please her. There also has to be a reward/punishment system in place for if it's good. eg - He isn't allowed to cum tonight but if it's good then he can cum tomorrow, if it's not good then he'll have to wait another day. Make him promise to behave. (powerful words like behave, obedience and phrases like "good boy" have a huge effect and at this point will be considered just a part of the game... But in time, they won't be any more.)
From then on things can rapidly change and be implemented using a similar system on a daily basis. eg Chores must be completed to give the woman pleasure, five orgasms for the women will allow him one. He can beg for sex, chastity can be used as can humiliation and regular punishments and rewards of tease, temptation, but usually denial.
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ah, now this I understand. I have friends who claim that they have a good understanding of how men work and as a result, seem to have mastered the art of getting what they want from men.
I have yet to decode men in a way that would enable me to seduce one. I am always (yet rarely lol) the seduced lol
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I'd eat you for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Not in a good way either. You should take things really slowly with any prospective dominants.
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See I regret to say that I'm not even down with the kids enough to totally understand what you mean when you say you'll eat me for breakfast.
My knowledge of youth lingo tends to expire around the point at which things were totally rad and tubular dude!
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I'm saying your naivety makes you ripe for abuse. So, be careful and get some trusted close friends and take things slow.
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At the risk of making meself look like a tit, if you really think that then please elaborate because the more I can learn, the better. Memo me maybe?
ETA: man I'm baffled, people are always so divided on whether they say I sound older and sorted or immature and totally lost. God what I would give to grow up and stop being some 21 year old sprog
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I've only got your posts to go on. But, judging from them, if anyone tells you you sound older and sorted online, they're lying.
I don't think I have anything constructive I can say to you via memo. Just take my above comment for what it's worth.
For the record, you don't look like a tit.
It was a bit of a dick thing for me to post.
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In which case I'll agree to disagree because I don't think me not agreeing with your opinion (or you not agreeing with mine) correlates with a level of nievity on my part.
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Nothing to do with differing opinions. I don't expect you to concede naivety. I'm not that much older than you. |
20 Jan 10, 5:26 PM totallycoverme UK(M), 4 yrs
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Elysium wrote:
totallycoverme wrote:
Elysium wrote:
totallycoverme wrote:
Elysium wrote:
totallycoverme wrote:
Elysium wrote:
totallycoverme wrote:
IndelibleMarker wrote:
I think TotallyCoverMe is right that fundamentally, on average men are physically built as the Dominant gender - to protect, fight etc.
But as has been pointed out, times, they are a changing...
I'm going to outline below a basic but effective FemDomme training scene (I could throw in a huge amount more detail, but I don't have time!)... The reason I'm putting this in is to show that on average, men are actually more easy to manipulate and control psychologically in terms of their sexual needs and frustrations. This can be seen with the amount of erotic artwork and pornography aimed at men.
It is possible for a woman to capitalise on this more and more in society while males physical strength becomes less and less useful (in a sexual context, using their physical strength to overpower a woman without consent would be considered rape).
If within the context of a relationship, a woman takes a man and tells him she wants to play a sexual game, then takes him to the bedroom and lays him on the bed naked while she's fully clothed, after a subtle extended period of no sex with him...
This builds sexual tension and the concept of a "game" puts his defence mechanisms on hold because people naturally like the idea of games as they relate to fun. All this will mean he will be more compliant.
If she then rubs around his cock teasing him and tells him about her dominance, and how some things are going to "change around here" while slowly stroking him his horniness will rapidly increase. If she then puts her face close to his and begins kissing him, whispering in his ear but all the time pressing her knee up against his balls it'll be more likely to bring out a submissive side - and again, compliance.
At this point she can make him write an essay, or have him talk about the FemDomme lifestyle, but it has to come from him and it has to be about what he will do to please her. There also has to be a reward/punishment system in place for if it's good. eg - He isn't allowed to cum tonight but if it's good then he can cum tomorrow, if it's not good then he'll have to wait another day. Make him promise to behave. (powerful words like behave, obedience and phrases like "good boy" have a huge effect and at this point will be considered just a part of the game... But in time, they won't be any more.)
From then on things can rapidly change and be implemented using a similar system on a daily basis. eg Chores must be completed to give the woman pleasure, five orgasms for the women will allow him one. He can beg for sex, chastity can be used as can humiliation and regular punishments and rewards of tease, temptation, but usually denial.
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ah, now this I understand. I have friends who claim that they have a good understanding of how men work and as a result, seem to have mastered the art of getting what they want from men.
I have yet to decode men in a way that would enable me to seduce one. I am always (yet rarely lol) the seduced lol
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I'd eat you for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Not in a good way either. You should take things really slowly with any prospective dominants.
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See I regret to say that I'm not even down with the kids enough to totally understand what you mean when you say you'll eat me for breakfast.
My knowledge of youth lingo tends to expire around the point at which things were totally rad and tubular dude!
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I'm saying your naivety makes you ripe for abuse. So, be careful and get some trusted close friends and take things slow.
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At the risk of making meself look like a tit, if you really think that then please elaborate because the more I can learn, the better. Memo me maybe?
ETA: man I'm baffled, people are always so divided on whether they say I sound older and sorted or immature and totally lost. God what I would give to grow up and stop being some 21 year old sprog
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I've only got your posts to go on. But, judging from them, if anyone tells you you sound older and sorted online, they're lying.
I don't think I have anything constructive I can say to you via memo. Just take my above comment for what it's worth.
For the record, you don't look like a tit.
It was a bit of a dick thing for me to post.
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In which case I'll agree to disagree because I don't think me not agreeing with your opinion (or you not agreeing with mine) correlates with a level of nievity on my part.
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Nothing to do with differing opinions. I don't expect you to concede naivety. I'm not that much older than you.
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we're probably equally nieve then  It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice xx
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20 Jan 10, 6:52 PM Elysium UK(EH), 5 yrs 
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totallycoverme wrote:
Elysium wrote:
totallycoverme wrote:
Elysium wrote:
totallycoverme wrote:
Elysium wrote:
totallycoverme wrote:
Elysium wrote:
totallycoverme wrote:
IndelibleMarker wrote:
I think TotallyCoverMe is right that fundamentally, on average men are physically built as the Dominant gender - to protect, fight etc.
But as has been pointed out, times, they are a changing...
I'm going to outline below a basic but effective FemDomme training scene (I could throw in a huge amount more detail, but I don't have time!)... The reason I'm putting this in is to show that on average, men are actually more easy to manipulate and control psychologically in terms of their sexual needs and frustrations. This can be seen with the amount of erotic artwork and pornography aimed at men.
It is possible for a woman to capitalise on this more and more in society while males physical strength becomes less and less useful (in a sexual context, using their physical strength to overpower a woman without consent would be considered rape).
If within the context of a relationship, a woman takes a man and tells him she wants to play a sexual game, then takes him to the bedroom and lays him on the bed naked while she's fully clothed, after a subtle extended period of no sex with him...
This builds sexual tension and the concept of a "game" puts his defence mechanisms on hold because people naturally like the idea of games as they relate to fun. All this will mean he will be more compliant.
If she then rubs around his cock teasing him and tells him about her dominance, and how some things are going to "change around here" while slowly stroking him his horniness will rapidly increase. If she then puts her face close to his and begins kissing him, whispering in his ear but all the time pressing her knee up against his balls it'll be more likely to bring out a submissive side - and again, compliance.
At this point she can make him write an essay, or have him talk about the FemDomme lifestyle, but it has to come from him and it has to be about what he will do to please her. There also has to be a reward/punishment system in place for if it's good. eg - He isn't allowed to cum tonight but if it's good then he can cum tomorrow, if it's not good then he'll have to wait another day. Make him promise to behave. (powerful words like behave, obedience and phrases like "good boy" have a huge effect and at this point will be considered just a part of the game... But in time, they won't be any more.)
From then on things can rapidly change and be implemented using a similar system on a daily basis. eg Chores must be completed to give the woman pleasure, five orgasms for the women will allow him one. He can beg for sex, chastity can be used as can humiliation and regular punishments and rewards of tease, temptation, but usually denial.
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ah, now this I understand. I have friends who claim that they have a good understanding of how men work and as a result, seem to have mastered the art of getting what they want from men.
I have yet to decode men in a way that would enable me to seduce one. I am always (yet rarely lol) the seduced lol
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I'd eat you for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Not in a good way either. You should take things really slowly with any prospective dominants.
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See I regret to say that I'm not even down with the kids enough to totally understand what you mean when you say you'll eat me for breakfast.
My knowledge of youth lingo tends to expire around the point at which things were totally rad and tubular dude!
|
I'm saying your naivety makes you ripe for abuse. So, be careful and get some trusted close friends and take things slow.
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At the risk of making meself look like a tit, if you really think that then please elaborate because the more I can learn, the better. Memo me maybe?
ETA: man I'm baffled, people are always so divided on whether they say I sound older and sorted or immature and totally lost. God what I would give to grow up and stop being some 21 year old sprog
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I've only got your posts to go on. But, judging from them, if anyone tells you you sound older and sorted online, they're lying.
I don't think I have anything constructive I can say to you via memo. Just take my above comment for what it's worth.
For the record, you don't look like a tit.
It was a bit of a dick thing for me to post.
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In which case I'll agree to disagree because I don't think me not agreeing with your opinion (or you not agreeing with mine) correlates with a level of nievity on my part.
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Nothing to do with differing opinions. I don't expect you to concede naivety. I'm not that much older than you.
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we're probably equally nieve then
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Don;t know about that: I can spell it. |