20 Jan 10, 8:41 AM subbietrouble 2 yrs |
IndelibleMarker wrote:
From then on things can rapidly change and be implemented using a similar system on a daily basis. eg Chores must be completed to give the woman pleasure, five orgasms for the women will allow him one. He can beg for sex, chastity can be used as can humiliation and regular punishments and rewards of tease, temptation, but usually denial.
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I see no reason why this can't be done with a woman - or how it would be any different if it was.
trouble xxx
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20 Jan 10, 9:05 AM IndelibleMarker UK(E), 6 yrs 

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subbietrouble wrote:
IndelibleMarker wrote:
From then on things can rapidly change and be implemented using a similar system on a daily basis. eg Chores must be completed to give the woman pleasure, five orgasms for the women will allow him one. He can beg for sex, chastity can be used as can humiliation and regular punishments and rewards of tease, temptation, but usually denial.
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I see no reason why this can't be done with a woman - or how it would be any different if it was.
trouble xxx
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Well, because as I said - men are on average, more easily manipulated and controlled psychologically due to their higher levels of 'horniness'. On average. I do recognise that human life has plenty of diversity - I have said throughout both threads that trying to class all one gender down a single route is ludicrous.
According to the Kinsey Institute, men in their twenties masturbate on average three to four times a day. Men in their fifties however average out at approximately once. However, you must remember the range is very large and only a small percentage are "average".
When this release is taken away from a man his horniness and (in the case of a FemDomme scene) compliance rapidly increases. However, as soon as a man orgasms it is literally like pulling the plug out of a bath. All sexual interest flows away extremely rapidly and they will have to wait some time to re-build their excitement level. Womens bodies do not work in the same way and that is why orgasm stacking is far more achievable in women. The emotions felt are VERY different. Kisses to all you fabioso people!
Patrick
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20 Jan 10, 9:12 AM CookieMonster UK, 6 yrs
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temperance wrote:
CookieMonster wrote:
OK take that on face value, but now few men hunt, fightings illeagal the the protector role is very much diminished if not totally so what are men now? A sharks not much use in the desert.
BTW
Ive done all three of those definitions so am I a naturally dominant sub?
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True dat init blud... but that is beacuse the Ladies are doing the hunting these days 
I agree im 100% natural born female submissive.... actually im far from it... i have anger management issues and im always ready for a fight.... maybe im actually a geezerbird?
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I think your confusing Dominant for Nuts. Veritatis simplex oratio est.
Seneca, Roman Statesman Ca. 65 A.D.
The language of truth is simple.
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20 Jan 10, 9:23 AM CookieMonster UK, 6 yrs
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IndelibleMarker wrote:
I think TotallyCoverMe is right that fundamentally, on average men are physically built as the Dominant gender - to protect, fight etc.
But as has been pointed out, times, they are a changing...
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Yes but we do not live in a world that is defined or graded by courage and capacity for violence by our peers or rulers, outside of football hooliganism.
You may also overlook that theres no guarantee that civilisation wont colapse so one of those types as a mate can be seen as insurance policy(In which case my oppertunities to get laid will rocket) for females.
When discussing ultimatley crass and silly topics like this, the state of the world we live in and the time is critical imo.
Veritatis simplex oratio est.
Seneca, Roman Statesman Ca. 65 A.D.
The language of truth is simple.
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20 Jan 10, 10:04 AM subbietrouble 2 yrs |
IndelibleMarker wrote:
Well, because as I said - men are on average, more easily manipulated and controlled psychologically due to their higher levels of 'horniness'.
According to the Kinsey Institute, men in their twenties masturbate on average three to four times a day. Men in their fifties however average out at approximately once. However, you must remember the range is very large and only a small percentage are "average".
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There is no proof that men are 'hornier' than women. Masturbation varies massively depending on the acceptance of it in the culture people were raised in. Women may masturbate less simply because they feel it is less acceptable. Likewise, women may lie to sexological researchers for the same reason (hence other notorious and obvious faults in sexological research such as men reporting more sexual partners than women). Even your own figures indicate that frequency of masturbation varies by age - thus even if your musings were correct, they would only apply to young men anyway - and invalidating your belief that 'men are hornier than woman'. Sexual practices have changed so much in the last 30 years that no-one has any idea of what 'biological' differences are between men and women anymore - if, indeed, there are any.
How would you, or anyone else know?
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20 Jan 10, 10:21 AM IndelibleMarker UK(E), 6 yrs 

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subbietrouble wrote:
IndelibleMarker wrote:
Well, because as I said - men are on average, more easily manipulated and controlled psychologically due to their higher levels of 'horniness'.
According to the Kinsey Institute, men in their twenties masturbate on average three to four times a day. Men in their fifties however average out at approximately once. However, you must remember the range is very large and only a small percentage are "average".
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There is no proof that men are 'hornier' than women. Masturbation varies massively depending on the acceptance of it in the culture people were raised in. Women may masturbate less simply because they feel it is less acceptable. Likewise, women may lie to sexological researchers for the same reason (hence other notorious and obvious faults in sexological research such as men reporting more sexual partners than women). Even your own figures indicate that frequency of masturbation varies by age - thus even if your musings were correct, they would only apply to young men anyway - and invalidating your belief that 'men are hornier than woman'. Sexual practices have changed so much in the last 30 years that no-one has any idea of what 'biological' differences are between men and women anymore - if, indeed, there are any.
How would you, or anyone else know?
trouble xxx
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I'm sorry, but everything you've just said is rubbish.
This link shows 3 studies carried out which all show men to masturbate more than women:
http://menshealth.about.com/od/sexualhealth/f/ma...
How would I or anyone else know? Erm... How about the various research studies which have been carried out... For example:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/...
or
http://www.answers.com/topic/orgasm Kisses to all you fabioso people!
Patrick
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Edited 20 Jan 10, 10:26 AM by IndelibleMarker
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20 Jan 10, 10:47 AM AstronautMikeDexter UK(E), 2 yrs |
True as that is it doesn't actually refute anything she said. ---
Ha!
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20 Jan 10, 11:16 AM IndelibleMarker UK(E), 6 yrs 

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Danbuc wrote:
True as that is it doesn't actually refute anything she said.
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That's actually true, so I apologise - well, at least the very first sentence of what was said. Men aren't biologically hornier than women just because they have higher levels of testosterone.
bowdoin.edu wrote:
According to WebMD Medical News, recent studies have shown that just because men have more testosterone, it doesn't necessarily mean they want more sex, more often, than women. In fact, it's widely believed that sex drive is affected more by your state of mind and factors like stress and body image than levels of testosterone.
What does all this mean? Girls are just as horny as guys.
On the one hand, we are constantly reminded of the traditional roles of the demure woman and the macho man, but at the same time women are sent conflicting messages about how they are expected to behave. Songs like Nelly Furtado's "Promiscuous Girl," raunchy episodes of Real Worlders sleeping with every roommate in the house, and Britney Spears gyrating on the floor in a belly-bearing tube top send quite a different message. The "Sex and the City" girls told us we could be happy and empowered living the single life, sleeping with a different guy every night. And with almost every popular female vocalist singing lyrics like the Pussycat Doll's "Buttons" (I'm a sexy mama / Who knows just how to get what I want and what I want to do is spring this on you"), women in entertainment today are all saying the same thing: I'm hot, I'm in control, and I want sex, so come and get it.
One Bowdoin guy said he feels uncomfortable with girls who seem so sexually uninhibited or make the first move. "I feel intimidated," he said. "It's old fashioned, but I like to feel like I have at least some power."
Are women today consciously going against the traditional stereotype of how they should conduct their sexual lives? I'm not sure. What I do know is this: All these sexual stereotypes do is confuse us. It appears one of the greatest hurdles both genders must overcome is to stop expecting each other to act a certain way, or play a certain role. Gender shouldn't dictate how a person behaves sexually. Ultimately, bigger isn't better and girls don't just want to be in relationships, they want sex too. |
Kisses to all you fabioso people!
Patrick
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20 Jan 10, 11:23 AM AstronautMikeDexter UK(E), 2 yrs |
IndelibleMarker wrote:
That's actually true, so I apologise - well, at least the very first sentence of what was said. Men aren't biologically hornier than women just because they have higher levels of testosterone.
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It is true that the men who have the greatest amount of sex have the most testosterone in their blood. But that doesn't tell you anything about whether testosterone makes you horny or (as appears increasingly likely) having more sex makes you produce more testosterone. ---
Ha!
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20 Jan 10, 11:49 AM IndelibleMarker UK(E), 6 yrs 

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Danbuc wrote:
IndelibleMarker wrote:
That's actually true, so I apologise - well, at least the very first sentence of what was said. Men aren't biologically hornier than women just because they have higher levels of testosterone.
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It is true that the men who have the greatest amount of sex have the most testosterone in their blood. But that doesn't tell you anything about whether testosterone makes you horny or (as appears increasingly likely) having more sex makes you produce more testosterone.
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Not necessarily. Sex can help build testosterone but only in a limited way. There are many other factors, such as masturbation, diet and nutrition, weight training, sleep, adequate fluid intake etc: http://fitness.suite101.com/article.cfm/boost_yo... which have to be considered.
What actually are your sources on the things you're saying because as it says there; German scientists have found that having an erection boosts testosterone levels and recommend having at least one per day. So it's not specifically sex which increases testosterone, apparently. It's the physical process of an erection and ejaculation. Sexual intercourse can also increase your testosterone levels, but it's more linked to the physical exertion alongside the erection, to ejaculation. Kisses to all you fabioso people!
Patrick
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Edited 20 Jan 10, 11:50 AM by IndelibleMarker
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