Women - The Naturally Dominant Gender? Part 2 (94)

yeah you've got me there I guess.

hmmm, I guess I'm just going on how I instinctively feel around men. Like I'm not sure I remember being around a guy and not feeling like I want to be protected by him. I regret to say that maybe that sounds a bit sad and one day, it might be nice for me to evolve a bit and get my head round the idea of feeling different around men.

On the flip side though, when I'm around most nilla men I know, particularly those my own age, because they're not so usually outwardly dominant, I sometimes feel like their mum but not in a good way. Hmm, to elaborate, I guess I feel a bit uncomfortable and unsatisfied when I don't feel that a man makes me feel looked after (guys my own age seem well immature so maybes that's something to do with it. I dunno)

I have no idea if this makes *any* sense

It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice xx

"the female of the species is more deadly than the male" Survival and strength is not just about brawn. Science proves women have a higher pain thresh hold than men (the baby thing & nurturing) and will-power (multi-tasking).

Men are physically stronger & women mentally. Obviously this is generalised but I think its logical.

I agree with individual personality too, which would incorporate confidence and past experiences... This can be more influential than the natural animalistic make up in some cases.

Hmmm, is there a clear factual answer?

Edited 19 Jan 10, 11:59 PM by TrampleTemptress

I'm most definitely a "strong independent woman". If people where asked to describe me on a scale of Dominance to submissiveness on a scale of 1-10, I'd guess most would put me on a 9 - ie firmly in the dominant camp. I could easily be the dominant partner in a relationship. The crux of the matter though, is it wouldn't make me happy - far, far from it infact.

The problem you are going to have, is that you are coming at it from a femsubs pov. No matter which way you look at it, instinctively a Dominant male is the natural thing for you. No matter how much knowledge or understanding you gain, it won't alter the fact that you are "programmed" to be submissive to the man in your life. Maybe understanding how a male sub feels may make the empathy a little easier to achieve, but it still won't alter your own natural instincts.

Interesting OP!

XxX

So you're agreeing with me as I wrote "kills with more certainty", didn't I.

I did orginally write "But just because we evolved this way biologically, doesn't mean we can't redefine the gender roles or even artificially change them now that we have the technology.", so not sure why you got you all upset and have to call my contribution posturing. I'm not posturing, I am merely pointing out what I'd consider fairly self-evident.

Well put your case for the team. Yet it is of course the society in which the roles are the most efficiently assigned which has the better chance of competing against the others. I suppose the bottomline of what I'm saying is that I think that it was not a coincidence that history played out as it did. That doesn't mean that the old ways are best suited for our future. Take religion as a point in case, I personally believe that religion at one point gave an evolutionary (in the context of civilisations/cultures competing against one another of course) edge, but that doesn't mean we have to keep clinging to superstitions.

Your Captain Jack

Damn I must be one lazy female lol.

Thing is though, I see myself doing some of those things in the role of submissive.

Hmm, maybe it's not a gender thing and more of an individual thing. Personally, I've yet to feel what it might be like to be a strong woman but it's an interesting thought that I would be interested to see if I find myself becoming close to feeling powerfulness in that way. Maybe with age (I used to avoid men altogether and my world was like a little army of angry lesbians so yeah, I would imagine that I definately have some stuff to learn about what it is to be and to feel like as a strong women in a community of both men and women)

It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice xx

Actually, come to think of it, I'm sure I could act as a strong independant woman but for now, based on what I feel deep down it would be just that, acting.

Yeah, a lot of people when they first meet me think I'm Domme. No idea why does that happen to you a lot too?

It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice xx

And what you consider self evident has essentially f-all evidence. It's the usual, awful, evo-psych garbage trotted out by people who know precisely nothing about evolution.

Today some of the best hunters (hunts women?) I know are women, where does that land us?

--- Ha!

By that theory I must be a bloke then, seeing as im the same height as the average man in the UK.

Im also pretty strong too, down to doing a very physical job and my sporting activities.

Or im just a freak of nature.

My height or physical strength does not in anyway have any influence over my dominance over people, as we are well past the days of cavemen running around pulling people by their hair to get what they want.

Argh, its people like you who give us tall submissive girls a complex, that submissive women should all be short and dainty.

I can't believe I've no control
It's all deranged - Bowie
"Computer games don't affect kids. I mean if Pacman affected our generation, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching pills and listening to repetitive music."

Actually, that's exactly what it means. Either a trait is coded for, genetically, and is thus impossible to change, or it is culturally chosen by humans, in which case it is not coded for, genetically. Not that I believe behaviour is biologically evolved, but that's how the theory goes - Wilson (founder of sociobiology) believes that you can never change gender roles, because they are a product of evolution, not cultural choice.

trouble xxx

But as has been pointed out, times, they are a changing...

I'm going to outline below a basic but effective FemDomme training scene (I could throw in a huge amount more detail, but I don't have time!)... The reason I'm putting this in is to show that on average, men are actually more easy to manipulate and control psychologically in terms of their sexual needs and frustrations. This can be seen with the amount of erotic artwork and pornography aimed at men.

It is possible for a woman to capitalise on this more and more in society while males physical strength becomes less and less useful (in a sexual context, using their physical strength to overpower a woman without consent would be considered rape).

If within the context of a relationship, a woman takes a man and tells him she wants to play a sexual game, then takes him to the bedroom and lays him on the bed naked while she's fully clothed, after a subtle extended period of no sex with him...

This builds sexual tension and the concept of a "game" puts his defence mechanisms on hold because people naturally like the idea of games as they relate to fun. All this will mean he will be more compliant.

If she then rubs around his cock teasing him and tells him about her dominance, and how some things are going to "change around here" while slowly stroking him his horniness will rapidly increase. If she then puts her face close to his and begins kissing him, whispering in his ear but all the time pressing her knee up against his balls it'll be more likely to bring out a submissive side - and again, compliance.

At this point she can make him write an essay, or have him talk about the FemDomme lifestyle, but it has to come from him and it has to be about what he will do to please her. There also has to be a reward/punishment system in place for if it's good. eg - He isn't allowed to cum tonight but if it's good then he can cum tomorrow, if it's not good then he'll have to wait another day. Make him promise to behave. (powerful words like behave, obedience and phrases like "good boy" have a huge effect and at this point will be considered just a part of the game... But in time, they won't be any more.)

From then on things can rapidly change and be implemented using a similar system on a daily basis. eg Chores must be completed to give the woman pleasure, five orgasms for the women will allow him one. He can beg for sex, chastity can be used as can humiliation and regular punishments and rewards of tease, temptation, but usually denial.

Kisses to all you fabioso people!
Patrick
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Edited 20 Jan 10, 8:29 AM by IndelibleMarker